kgr Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 [hv=d=s&s=sa9xxhkqxxxxdxxcq]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]1♥-1♠?? We have the agreement that 3♣ is a ♣ splinter with 4c♠ and 12-14 or 18-19. And 2♠ is a normal raise (we don't raise often with a 3c♠).My partner prefers 3♣ to show an unbalanced distribution. 2♠ would show a more balanced hand.I prefer 2♠ because with the minimal hand the ♣Q singleton is not worth to be mentioned. Partner will also mis-evaluate ♣Kxxx and with ♣xxxx he will expect more pts in the other suits.....Given the bidding agreements, what bid do you prefer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I don't understand. Your partner likes a splinter to show an unbalanced hand and you don't? Why not? I think your partner has a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 12-14 means that 12 is the minimum strength for an unbalanced opener? If so I have to splinter wiht this hand according to system I think. Then again maybe I shouldn't have opened this hand. I take it that this hand evaluates to 12 (since I opened) so I voted 3♣. If 12-14 is meant to exclude minimal hands, though, I would bid 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 So if 3♣ is splinter after 1♥-1♠, then how would you bid Kx AKJxx x KQJxx or similar? Just curious ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 So if 3♣ is splinter after 1♥-1♠, then how would you bid Kx AKJxx x KQJxx or similar? Just curious ... 2♣ forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I don't understand why we would have an agreement to force the three-level with 12 HCP and a stiff. I understand this less when we have 9 HCP and a stiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Given the bidding agreements, I bid 3♣ if it shows my hand. Long time ago I used to play this style as well and had come to hate it. If your partner prefers 3♣ to be unbalanced just like we have here, then isn't it better if we bid this so he can judge better as he will be expecting 2♠ to be the balanced type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I don't understand. Your partner likes a splinter to show an unbalanced hand and you don't? Why not? I think your partner has a point. I would if ♣Q was ♦Q or ♠Q, but with singleton Q I think 3♣ gives a misdescription of where my points are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 So if 3♣ is splinter after 1♥-1♠, then how would you bid Kx AKJxx x KQJxx or similar? Just curious ... 2♣ forcing. Ok, I'm with you so far. So then what if you hold say x KJxxx Qxx AQxx and wish to rebid 2♣ nonforcing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 So if 3♣ is splinter after 1♥-1♠, then how would you bid Kx AKJxx x KQJxx or similar? Just curious ... 2♣ forcing. Ok, I'm with you so far. So then what if you hold say x KJxxx Qxx AQxx and wish to rebid 2♣ nonforcing? 1NT (we rather bid 1NT on hands like that because we play 2C forcing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 If "12-14" means "12-14 in high cards", then this is a 2♠ bid, because this hand doesn't contain 12 HCP. If "12-14" really means "opening strength up to 14 HCP", then it's a splinter. This hand is closer to A9xx KQxxx Qxx x than to A9xx KQxxx xx Qx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I love the splinter since you can make it on the 3 level. It shows a minimum strength hand, which you have. Your playing strength is very good, so go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 3C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Hi, Given the 6-4 distribution, the hand is worth a splinter.In general, if I would ever play your agreement set, I would alwaysmake the splinter, i.e. 2S ist either a 3 card raise or 5422, and if you rule out 3 card raises, 5422 it is.Of course you can also say, that the splinter showes a real opening bid you are not ashamed of, and than some submin openers will have to go via 2S as well. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I don't understand. Your partner likes a splinter to show an unbalanced hand and you don't? Why not? I think your partner has a point. I would if ♣Q was ♦Q or ♠Q, but with singleton Q I think 3♣ gives a misdescription of where my points are? The question is, why did you open the hand in the first place?Rule of 20 with the single Queen? With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 [hv=d=s&s=sa9xxhkqxxxxdxxcq]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-1♠??We have the agreement that 3♣ is a ♣ splinter with 4c♠ and 12-14 or 18-19. And 2♠ is a normal raise (we don't raise often with a 3c♠).My partner prefers 3♣ to show an unbalanced distribution. 2♠ would show a more balanced hand.I prefer 2♠ because with the minimal hand the ♣Q singleton is not worth to be mentioned. Partner will also mis-evaluate ♣Kxxx and with ♣xxxx he will expect more pts in the other suits.....Given the bidding agreements, what bid do you prefer?[/hv] IMO 3♣ = 10, 3♠ = 6, 2♠ = 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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