diana_eva Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Removed a personal attack in the Intermediate/Advanced Forum, along with subsequent replies. Warned the offender. Removed another attack by same poster in I/A and suspended their posting privileges for 30 days. Also removed a couple of follow-up replies. Thanks for reporting the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Removed another attack by same poster in I/A and suspended their posting privileges for 30 days. Also removed a couple of follow-up replies. Thanks for reporting the post. Whenever I read posts like this I am dying to know what was in that the offending posts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Whenever I read posts like this I am dying to know what was in that the offending posts!Nothing very clever, just repeated digs at a particular poster that the offender seems to have an issue with. The most recent one answers the question and then adds the comment "but don't ask <so-and-so>". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Removed a rude post in the WC, global warming thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Removed a rude post in the WC, global warming thread.If you are not going to let hrothgar have a go at the trolls then perhaps you need to make trolling against the terms of usage... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Removed a rude post in the WC, global warming thread.FYP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 FYP Yeah very tempting, but it's probably gonna resurface. Other mods are free to chime in obviously, I just did something quickly bec the post was too bad to let it stay there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 If you are not going to let hrothgar have a go at the trolls then perhaps you need to make trolling against the terms of usage...Troll-on-troll action is OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Troll-on-troll action is OK?Bridge players are mostly older and will take what they can get! :P :lol: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Unapproved a topic in the Water Cooler which TBH I don't really know what meant. We'll clarify with the poster what that was about and consider restoring if it turns out I misunderstood something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Deleted the thread "Error on Beat by robbot" at the OP's request, because he misunderstood the bidding explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 There were two threads about problems adjusting the chat pane. I removed the one in Suggestions for the Software, and left the one in BBO Support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Removed a rude post in the WC, global warming thread.I bet you'll make a similar post again, shortly. But you should also think about what is causing the problem here. The post that caused this insult ("you ignorant piece of **") is indeed absolutely idiotic, and insulting to the problems faced by a large number of actual people. I just do not understand why this thread is tolerated on BBF. The watercooler is meant for BBF members to have a place to go if they feel like taking the discussion off-topic. The global warming thread instead mostly attracts posters who do not post outside the watercooler, or in many cases not even outside this thread. And for the most recent additions among those, it is really hard to tell whether they are just trying to provoke (i.e., being a troll), or whether they are indeed as idiotic as their posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 I closed the Global Warming thread, pending discussion with the other mods to decide whether we allow it to stay or not. Removed a rude post there too and handled the offender. Thanks for the heads-up, cherdano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 The problem is not with the topic but with a few posters (who don't confine their vituperation to the climate thread). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I can't speak for the other mods, but the reason I tolerate the thread is simply because I don't read it. Like WC threads about religion and politics, I expect it to be full of flaming and partisan ideology, not much intelligent conversation. The posters in threads like these know what they're getting into, I don't see the need to protect them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I can't speak for the other mods, but the reason I tolerate the thread is simply because I don't read it. Like WC threads about religion and politics, I expect it to be full of flaming and partisan ideology, not much intelligent conversation. The posters in threads like these know what they're getting into, I don't see the need to protect them.Then why police what hrothgar is allowed to say there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Isn't "moderation" applied with the intent to moderate (eliminate extremes in comportment) rather than censor? If a thread treats a subject of interest to even 2 posters, its existence is valid and valuable (a FORUM where views and commentary can be exchanged by members of the community) and it only need be protected from violations of the terms of use (which include personal attack etc.).Contribute or abstain depending on your interest but respect (even for views that you might consider extreme or unpleasant to you personally) everyone that contributes in a social and collegial manner.This is Civics101 and based on bridge players experience with bad behavior at the table, I would have thought that this particular example would be easy to accept or at least tolerate. I hope that the thread will be unlocked, as it has a subject that bears discussion and not discord, veracity and not vituperation, acceptance and not aggression. It may be the single most important issue of our age and the current political stance of many flies in the face of an awful lot of science that disputes that very stance. (On both sides of the issue!) An open society (or community) reflects its values in its actions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Then why police what hrothgar is allowed to say there?Some things cross the line from ordinary flaming to personal attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Some things cross the line from ordinary flaming to personal attacks. Is it really possible to make a personal attack against a troll? If I were to make up an account on some random webforum, just in order to make idiotic posts and stir up controversy, then I sure as hell wouldn't take it personal if someone called this account a piece of *****. You (the moderators) put yourselves in the position of constantly having to side with these trolls against posters who also make useful contributions outside this thread, or outside the watercooler. If you are happy with that role, then, oh well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 It's a fine line we have to draw. One of the problems with trying to moderate when you don't actively read the threads in question is that it's hard to know that the target of the attack is just a troll. We tend to err on the side of keeping things more moderate. And we generally only deal with the posts that someone complains about -- these tend to be the attacks on the trolls, not the original trolling. Furthermore, certain posters are frequent targets of complaint reports. It's possible to have heated arguments without resorting to derogatory language, but these people repeatedly fail at this. And they've been on the net long enough to know that one of the best policies is DNFTT. Mention has been made of people who don't participate anywhere other than the Water Cooler. Without spending significant time researching the posting history of the parties in a flame war, it's hard to know who these are. Moderating the forums is no one's full time job, it's an occasional background task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Moderating the forums is no one's full time job, it's an occasional background task. That's a silly argument in favour of letting the global warming thread run. Shutting it down would be less work in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenG Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Mention has been made of people who don't participate anywhere other than the Water Cooler. Without spending significant time researching the posting history of the parties in a flame war, it's hard to know who these are.It's not actually that difficult to look at their profile. The "Most Active In" field gives a strong clue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Mention has been made of people who don't participate anywhere other than the Water Cooler. Without spending significant time researching the posting history of the parties in a flame war, it's hard to know who these are. Perhaps moderators need to learn to use the forum software a bit better? It took me all of one minute to learn that Daniel1960 has made 380 posts on the forums, all of which have been in The WatercoolerAl_U_Card has made 5,034 posts, 3174 of which have been in the Watercooler (and almost all of the bridge content was years in the past)Hrothgar has made 12,051 posts, but only 3251 of which have been in the Watercooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Do political forums (fora) have Water Coolers where we can bash each other's Bridge game? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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