mohitz Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 (edited) Playing match-points, 1♣ - (p) - 1♥ - (p)1♠ - (p) - 1NT - (p) ? [hv=d=s&v=n&s=saqxxhkxxdxcq9xxx]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] Q1: Would you rather bid 2♥ instead of 1♠? Assuming you bid 1♠ earlier, Q2: Does a 2♥ bid now promise extras?Q3: If it does not promise extras, do you pass 1NT or try 2♥? EDIT: You are playing 2/1 with a pickup partner. Thanks in advance Edited November 24, 2009 by mohitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 2♥ shows extra's which is why you need to play T-Walsh to bid this hand adequately. Now you have to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_KARLUK Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 2♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 1. 2 ♥ shows extras.2. It depends a little on your system. If 1 ♥ and later 1 NT denied as much as 4 diamonds, then I would bid 2 Club. If my 1 Spade bid confirms an unbalanced hand allready, I would pass. If I always raise 2 Heart with this kind of hand, I would obviously have done so. Without any agreements, I will try to relax while being dummy in 1 NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 1. I would rather 2♥.2. Yes it shows extras.3. Definitely 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'm fine with the 1♠ rebid. I would bid 2♥ now if it didn't show extras (which I have sometimes agreed in the past) but otherwise pass. It's not like pass couldn't be right anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 If I have to pass 1N in this situation I prefer raising to 2H to begin with. That being said I prefer for 2H in this auction not to show extras, but few people seem to agree with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I play that 2♥ now shows extras. If not, then how do you handle that your range is so wide? I guess it's just a tradeoff for not having to rebid 2♥ as I do with this hand type, saving the "round-the-horn" bidding to show a K extra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I play that 2♥ now shows extras. If not, then how do you handle that your range is so wide? I guess it's just a tradeoff for not having to rebid 2♥ as I do with this hand type, saving the "round-the-horn" bidding to show a K extra. Artificial 2♦ showing a 2♥ bid with extras. 4135 with extras you bid 2NT. 4045 with extras you either open 1♦ or bid 2NT (gross but whatever). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohitz Posted November 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Artificial 2♦ showing a 2♥ bid with extras. 4135 with extras you bid 2NT. 4045 with extras you either open 1♦ or bid 2NT (gross but whatever). I like this. Passing 1N also lets them balance in diamonds cheaply. The full hand was [hv=d=s&v=n&n=sxxxhaqt9xdkxxctx&w=sk9xhjxd98xxxxcjx&e=sjtxhxxxdaqjcakxx&s=saqxxhkxxdxcq9xxx]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 I play that 2♥ now shows extras. If not, then how do you handle that your range is so wide? I guess it's just a tradeoff for not having to rebid 2♥ as I do with this hand type, saving the "round-the-horn" bidding to show a K extra. Artificial 2♦ showing a 2♥ bid with extras. 4135 with extras you bid 2NT. 4045 with extras you either open 1♦ or bid 2NT (gross but whatever). I remember when awm posted this idea on the forums. Anyways I do not play that, I just play that 2H has a wide range of 11-15 and you go from there. If you have 16-17 bid 3H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 I would have raised to 2H straight away. 2H now certainly promises extras for most people including myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 I play that 2♥ now shows extras. If not, then how do you handle that your range is so wide? I guess it's just a tradeoff for not having to rebid 2♥ as I do with this hand type, saving the "round-the-horn" bidding to show a K extra. Artificial 2♦ showing a 2♥ bid with extras. 4135 with extras you bid 2NT. 4045 with extras you either open 1♦ or bid 2NT (gross but whatever). I remember when awm posted this idea on the forums. Anyways I do not play that, I just play that 2H has a wide range of 11-15 and you go from there. If you have 16-17 bid 3H. Yes it's my alltime favorite AWM idea. 2♦ instead of 2♣ as the drury bid is logical too, at least for spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 2. It depends a little on your system. If 1 ♥ and later 1 NT denied as much as 4 diamonds, then I would bid 2 Club. It can't deny four diamonds. He could easily have 5-4 in the reds no matter what system we play (OK as long as we play a system I have heard about). Even 5-5 reds unless we have some exotic gadget to show such a hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Q1 A matter of agreement, and given the suit quality of the spades, 1S and 2H are both reasonable Q2 Yes, 2H now should show add. strength Q3 If it does not promise add. strength, 2H is fine., and I would bid it. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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