luis Posted July 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 pass with 1 & 2, even when invitational??? that's weird imo... Awful in MP tourneys Free: If you want to invite you can, I thought your hands had 0 HCP :-). Remembering overcaller has 11-14 it's easy to invite and either stop safe or get to a good game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Free did you mean hands one and two as just the shape of the hand, meaning x could also be an honor ?I didnt understand it before and so did luis.Ofcourse if you enough hcp you can act further. how much exactly im not sure but im guessing invitation is enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Sry if I was unclear. I meant, what do you do with a 3-5-4-1 and a 5-3-4-1, both either weak or invitational? With GF hands it's clear ofcourse :D Partscore battle IS important imo... It's quite clear how to bid with certain hands, but what does bidding the 2nd possible suit mean? Is it pass/correct, or is it natural? How do you find a 5-3 ♠-fit with a 3-5-4-1 after a 1♦-2♣ (overcaller has 5-1-3-4)?? Won't you end up in 3♥ too often if there is a fit, and won't you miss the 5-3 ♠ fit? Btw Luis, is an overcall ALLWAYS 11-14? So you have to jump with ALL weaker hands? Also with something like x-KJTx-QT9xxx-xx? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted July 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Sry if I was unclear. I meant, what do you do with a 3-5-4-1 and a 5-3-4-1, both either weak or invitational? With GF hands it's clear ofcourse :D Partscore battle IS important imo... It's quite clear how to bid with certain hands, but what does bidding the 2nd possible suit mean? Is it pass/correct, or is it natural? How do you find a 5-3 ♠-fit with a 3-5-4-1 after a 1♦-2♣ (overcaller has 5-1-3-4)?? Won't you end up in 3♥ too often if there is a fit, and won't you miss the 5-3 ♠ fit? Btw Luis, is an overcall ALLWAYS 11-14? So you have to jump with ALL weaker hands? Also with something like x-KJTx-QT9xxx-xx? After 1d-2c when you have 3-5-4-1 and values the recommended bid is 2NT, the 2N bid is used a lot to show "Invitational values and missfit for clubs". Overcaller can bid 3s if he has longer spades than clubs. When the opps bid again we agree that new suits by overcaller show the canape hand while dbl shows a two suiter with the first suit longer and pass shows usually a balanced one suited hand or a one suited hand that doesn't want to rebid the suit. About 11-14 that's usually the recommended range you can change it if you like light overcalls there's a balance to watch, the bigger the range the easiest it is to enter the auction and make things difficult for them but you are also damaging your competitive bidding since it will be hard to know when you can bid game or invite and when you must just shutup. Luis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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