teinemaa Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 A new way to play duplicate bridge instead of rubber with your friends. It is like atwo teams match where the closed room results are taken from the tabletaking the high card points and distribution into account. Table wascalculated on the basis of over 60,000 results from world classplayers.Take a look: http://www.compensationtable.com Any kind of questions and feedback is welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeac Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 it needs more explanation. i am still confused. what do you compare it to? say the score is 420 for 4H making nonvulnerable. what is the equivalant score on the chart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junyi_zhu Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 A new way to play duplicate bridge instead of rubber with your friends. It is like atwo teams match where the closed room results are taken from the tabletaking the high card points and distribution into account. Table wascalculated on the basis of over 60,000 results from world classplayers.Take a look: http://www.compensationtable.com Any kind of questions and feedback is welcome. Interesting. It would be interesting to see how it works in money bridge IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 it needs more explanation. i am still confused. what do you compare it to? say the score is 420 for 4H making nonvulnerable. what is the equivalant score on the chart? Basically it is a modified version of russian scoring.http://www.pagat.com/boston/bridge.html#chicago%20-%20rus The adv. is, that russian scoring only looks at HCP, in contrast this modified version takes the degreet of fit you have into the consideration as well. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 What to do if both sides have a major suit fit and 20 HCPs? Does spades prevail over hearts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 What to do if both sides have a major suit fit and 20 HCPs? Does spades prevail over hearts? One sides plays? And if you have a double fit, you take the combined length of the trumpsuit you choose? With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 One sides plays? And if you have a double fit, you take the combined length of the trumpsuit you choose? With kind regardsMarlowe No, the par score does not depend on what happend at the table. For all we know, the board might have been passed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 One sides plays? And if you have a double fit, you take the combined length of the trumpsuit you choose? With kind regardsMarlowe No, the par score does not depend on what happend at the table. For all we know, the board might have been passed out. I doubt, that the table displayes the part score. In Russian Scoring you run against the Expected Score given acertain amount of HCP you hold, and if you use the alternative table, you basically run against the Expected Score given a certain amount of HCP, and the fit you have with p. Taking the degree of fit into acount to calculate the Expected Score is certainly a sensible improvement over tradional method of Russian Scoring. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teinemaa Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I had the rules in about page. It seems that most of you didn't find them, so they where in really bad place. I made additional page to compensationtable.com about are rules and examples, how to use this table. it needs more explanation. i am still confused. what do you compare it to? say the score is 420 for 4H making nonvulnerable. what is the equivalant score on the chart?Lets say these who made 4H had 25 HCPs and 9-card heart fit and are expected to get 390 points. But they got 420 so it is 1 IMP for them.Interesting. It would be interesting to see how it works in money bridge IMO. You can find out :P . In Estonia, the older version of this table was used for money bridge. Stakes where about 1 IMP = 1$.Basically it is a modified version of russian scoring.http://www.pagat.com/boston/bridge.html#chicago%20-%20rus The adv. is, that russian scoring only looks at HCP, in contrast this modifiedversion takes the degreet of fit you have into the consideration as well. With kind regardsMarlowe I never heard the term Russian Scoring before. Thanks for that information. The other big advantage is that Russian Scoring is made about 20 years ago (I thought this method was forgotten). The Portable Bridge Notation, which is standard to store bridge deals in computer files, is 10 years old. So the Russian Scoring is probably based on some deals and creators experience, but my table is based on over 30 000 deals played by expert players.What to do if both sides have a major suit fit and 20 HCPs? Does spades prevail over hearts?Before creating this table, I thought about the 20 HCPs problem. My first idea was that line with more cards in spade suit should score. My last idea was to make it as simple and fast as possible so the line how started bidding should score. Thanks for feedback,Tanel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I doubt, that the table displayes the part score. par score, not part score. anyway par score is not the correct term I think, datum score it must be. sr. Tx for clarrification, and welcome to the forum, teinemaa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teinemaa Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I believe this table is especially good for new players who want to play duplicate bridge (which is more challenging than rubber) with friends. As a junior bridge player, I know many bridge juniors, who want to play duplicate bridge but who doesn't like the tense tournament atmosphere.So I want to make this table as popular as possible to make more people to play bridge. I would be really happy, if you have any ideas how to make this table more popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I have to say the scoring table seems more logical the way your site says (e.g. NV): partscore=50game=300small slam=800grand slam=1300 than what the official 50, 300, 500, 500 and then needing to explain that the 50 for the partscore applies only for partscores but the other ones are additive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossoneri Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 This came at a good time - I was fretting over how to score a minibridge tournament, I might try this out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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