brillage Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 I sit in EAST with a good hand:[hv=d=w&v=b&s=sakqj54haqdqtcaqj]133|100|Scoring: Total Points[/hv] Partner dealt and opened 1♥, I responsed 1♠.Partner 2♣, I bid 4NT asking him RKC.His answer was 6♣ !!! What's meaning of the 6♣?orWhat a hand did Partner hold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 xxKJTXX-KTXXXX(1430)?edit: somewhere where this is allowed as an opening bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 2 keycards + a void in a suit above trumps (♣). 5NT: unspecified void, odd# keycards6x: void in that suit, 2 keycards6trumps: void in a suit above trumps, 2 keycards. Here he should have a spade void, ♦A, ♣K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 How do you play the void replies? I play the void replies as follows:5NT = EVEN ( 0 or 2 ) + void somewhereand6C = ODD ( 1 or 3 ) + higher suit void My guess is that Opener is void in ♠ andat least 5/5 in the rounded suits, something like ♠ void♥ K J x x x (x) ♦ A and/or K and perhaps another x♣ K J x x x If the reply were 5NT, I could/should comfortably bid a grand. With the 6C reply, the ♦ Ace is missing and you better stay in a small slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 partner is crazy. probably didnt understand 4NT correctly. Anyway try a grand in a major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 4NT is RKC for ♣ (the last suit bid). the 6♣ response shows an odd number of keycards with a useful void in a suit higher than ♣ (5NT would show an even number of keycards). If you want to RKC in another suit, you should've gone slow by using 4th suit forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 I guess people think a spade void would be considered useful. Whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 2 keycards + a void in a suit above trumps (♣). 5NT: unspecified void, odd# keycards6x: void in that suit, 2 keycards6trumps: void in a suit above trumps, 2 keycards. Here he should have a spade void, ♦A, ♣K. Strange, normal in USA is to play 5N is even and 5x is odd, though I'm not sure why one would be better than the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 2 keycards + a void in a suit above trumps (♣). 5NT: unspecified void, odd# keycards6x: void in that suit, 2 keycards6trumps: void in a suit above trumps, 2 keycards. Here he should have a spade void, ♦A, ♣K. Strange, normal in USA is to play 5N is even and 5x is odd, though I'm not sure why one would be better than the other.You meant 6x is odd. For example if Sp were trump, then after 4NT( RKC )6C = odd + Cl void6D.. etc. ...and I'm assuming that 1 key + void occurs more frequently than 2 keys + voidwhich is why 6x was selected as odd, since the void would be pinpointed more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilgan Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 I always thought 5 -> 2+void because it used the least space. With 1 and a void it might not be enough to force partner to the 6 level. I know I've responded 5 NT as 2 + void a lot more than 6 odd personally. Serious blah to using 4 NT as keycard for clubs though.. yuck ;) Partner should have something like this:-KJTxxKxxKxxxx regardless we are off the A of diamonds or K of clubs so 6NT is a fairly trivial (imo) bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 I guess people think a spade void would be considered useful. Whatever. The void in itself is not usefull, but the information about the hand certainly is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 A jump to the 6 level usually showes 1KC and a unspecified void,if I remember this one correctly. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 P probably has two keycards for clubs and a diamond void. Or maybe he has one keycard. Or maybe he has a spade void. Or maybe he thought 4NT was quanti and wants play 6♣. Or maybe he wasn't sure what 4NT was and thought that 5♣ could be taken as a keycard response so he better make an unambiguous (?) natural club bid. 7♠ is probably on but given the confusion I would just settle for a safe 6♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Ok, brillage, I think we are ready to see Opener's hand ! ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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