jdonn Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 AT98xx Kx KQTx x, r/w imps 1♠ (2♠) 3♦ (3♥)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Since you did not mention anything special about the 3♦ bid, I will assume it is natural and forcing. How can one bid anything other than 4♦? I am not bidding 3NT just because I have Kx of hearts. And I am not suppressing KQTx in support for partner's suit. For all that I know, he could have aces in both off-suits. It might be true that 3NT from my side is the last making game (it could also be true that it will go down 9 tricks on a club lead through partner's Kx of clubs and a heart back). I am not going to mastermind the hand. I raise diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 How can one bid anything other than 4♦? I found a way. :) Not that I have any clue that what I did was right or even good, but it worked very well for somewhat lucky reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 How can one bid anything other than 4♦? I found a way. :) Not that I have any clue that what I did was right or even good, but it worked very well for somewhat lucky reasons.Did you rebid 4C ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 3♠, now maybe 4♥ from p is CoG while 4♣ agrees spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 AT98xx Kx KQTx x, r/w imps 1♠ (2♠) 3♦ (3♥)?Calls to consider: 3♠, 3NT, 4♣,4♦,5♦3♠ probably shows 6+♠ since we didn't pass but am I better off showing a♦ fit 3NT I am the one with a ♥ stopper but am playing partner for a ♣ stopper 4♣ this has to be a cuebid in view of partner's ♦ call and LHO's initial 2♠ call 4♦ support w/support? 5♦ the best way not to miss game is to bid it My order of preference is 4♣>3♠>5♦>3NT>4♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 One of 4♣ and 4♥ has to be choice of games, I would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 you bid blackwood and he passed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 5♦ the best way not to miss game is to bid it Are you implying that 4♦ is not forcing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Wow what are all these 4♣ bids, lol? Am I not allowed to have clubs? If I rebid 3♠ is partner not allowed to have clubs? Couldn't diamonds (just on the auction, not knowing my actual hand) be their minor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Wow what are all these 4♣ bids, lol? Am I not allowed to have clubs? If I rebid 3♠ is partner not allowed to have clubs? Couldn't diamonds (just on the auction, not knowing my actual hand) be their minor? Well, yeah. That's why I'm tending to think that 4♥ should be the choice bid. I mean, 4♥ is the one bid that cannot be natural, unless the opponents are drunk and very young. And, as I always say, "game before slam." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 5♦ the best way not to miss game is to bid it Are you implying that 4♦ is not forcing? I would think it was but reread the statement :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 The only rightsiding bid I can see is 3NT, or am i missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Wow what are all these 4♣ bids, lol? Am I not allowed to have clubs? If I rebid 3♠ is partner not allowed to have clubs? Couldn't diamonds (just on the auction, not knowing my actual hand) be their minor? Sure, diamonds could be their minor. But, as I said in my first post, I assumed that the 3♦ bid was natural and forcing since you did not say anything to the contrary. My holding of KQTx and partner's presumably natural bid make it extremely unlikely (but not impossible) that diamonds is their suit. Besides, if partner intended his 3♦ bid as showing spade support, I will find out about it soon. If he meant it as something entirely different we may be in a whole lot of trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Wow what are all these 4♣ bids, lol? Am I not allowed to have clubs? If I rebid 3♠ is partner not allowed to have clubs? Couldn't diamonds (just on the auction, not knowing my actual hand) be their minor? but why would you want to bid it on the 4 level if was a ♣ suit you could always pass 3♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 4♦. I don't understand Josh's comments on whether diamonds could be their suit. If partner's 3♦ bid wasn't natural, then he should state that in his write-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 What is this, bizarro world? 2♠ shows hearts and either minor. Partner bid a natural 3♦. It's entirely possible LHO and partner both have diamonds! Yes from our hand we can see that's not the case this time, but that has nothing to do with what the bids mean. Can partner see our hand or something? I can have 5 clubs on this auction. Partner can have 5 clubs on this auction. The opponents have not promised clubs. So how can a club bid by either one of us not be natural? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Sorry. I thought the question was whether *we* had doubt as to the minor. I agree that partner won't know that we know the minor. Of course I'll still stick with my answer. I was just confused as to what was being asserted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 4D, partner can offer 4S over that himself if he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 In relation to another thread I saw today, what would 5♦ show? Or does it just mean you are trying to put it to the opponents? (I bid it for that reason) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 In a Bridge world article a few years ago Jeff Goldsmith suggested playing transfers in this sequence. They solve the good 3d bad 3d hands and would right side this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 In relation to another thread I saw today, what would 5♦ show? Or does it just mean you are trying to put it to the opponents? (I bid it for that reason) 5♦ = good trumps, but otherwise not very interested in slam. I don't like it for the latter reason, we could easily have slam (and will get there if partner cues 4♥ over 4♦). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 The reason I got lucky is partner bid slam, misjudging my heart holding of course, on KJ JTx AJxxxx Ax. Queen of hearts on his left, stiff queen of spades on his right. Or maybe we just judged well? Nah, lucky as heck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Hard to determine the worth of the heart K with the heart length supposedly on my left. I think 4D is plenty enough with this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 A 5D bid is just jamming LHO. I don't like it especially as I'm willing to play in 4S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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