gwnn Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 xxxJTxAKxKT9x third seat favorable imps. assume partner is opening "normally" but a little on the sound side (this might be only my impression because I like opening rather light) edit: hand is correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Unless I am playing with either Roth or Stone, I cannot see why I would want to open this hand in 3rd seat. You might open 1♣ for the lead, but that is about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 1♦. I probably want a diamond lead if we defend, my hand is better than average, and I can easily pass any response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Prefer 1D to 1C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 *****!!! minors reversed! sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 *****!!! minors reversed! sorry Ok then definitely 1C, was more interesting the other way :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 1♦. I probably want a diamond lead if we defend, my hand is better than average, and I can easily pass any response. Agree - its not very likely I will need a club trick. Frankly, it might be counterproductive to the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junyi_zhu Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 xxxJTxAKxKT9x third seat favorable imps. assume partner is opening "normally" but a little on the sound side (this might be only my impression because I like opening rather light) edit: hand is correct this is a normal 1C opening hand to me, regardless positions.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I switch to 1♣ since the minors have switched! (I open the KT9x). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I will open my KT9x minor, not my AKx one. Would never pass in 3rd seat with this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 xxxJTxAKxKT9x third seat favorable imps. assume partner is opening "normally" but a little on the sound side (this might be only my impression because I like opening rather light) edit: hand is correct this is a normal 1C opening hand to me, regardless positions.... Not even close to an opening for me, unless playing 10-12 1NT (which I never have). I'll usually pass 4333 12 counts, and 11 counts are right out. It's 9 losers, the only compensating features are a couple of well placed 10's and a 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Pass. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyhung Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I wouldn't have said anything if there were at most one poster who passed, but I feel this is a clear opening in the KT9x suit 3rd favorable if you consider yourself to be a better team than your opponents. Sometimes passing out is right, but it feels very random. Meanwhile, bidding is right when : 1) They misjudge the bidding2) You and partner judge well in the bidding3) They misjudge the play4) You and partner judge well in the play It's wrong when the converse happens, but that's less likely since 1) you + partner are unlikely to misjudge the future auction/play since you have what is expected for your bid (a light opener with a lead-director) and you are the better team2) They are the worse team. I remember a great tip from a Grant Baze article : when you are up against weak opponents, do not lose the board with an early non-obvious unilateral action. Keep things flexible with a flexible hand and give them opportunities to lose the board. They bid worse, they play worse, they defend worse: that's what weak opponents do. Passing is such a unilateral random decision: you may be staking everything on passout being right when you don't know much about the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 This was a hand at the junior teaching table and there was an almost unanimous support for Pass. The points they raised were (and I'm not including them here to be LOL-ed at):You're giving them the whole 1 level. You should open it a weak NT if available.This hand has lots of defence, you don't want to declareYou will get too high too oftenIt makes more sense to open a quacky hand than one with lots of controls (same hcp), see point 2some other stuff that I don't remember/blocked outI do not personally agree with either of these points but sometimes when I post something they said it I am convinced that I was the one who deserve a lol. (for example I opened the "idk" hand 1♦ and missed a good 4♠) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junyi_zhu Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 This was a hand at the junior teaching table and there was an almost unanimous support for Pass. The points they raised were (and I'm not including them here to be LOL-ed at):You're giving them the whole 1 level. You should open it a weak NT if available.This hand has lots of defence, you don't want to declareYou will get too high too oftenIt makes more sense to open a quacky hand than one with lots of controls (same hcp), see point 2some other stuff that I don't remember/blocked outI do not personally agree with either of these points but sometimes when I post something they said it I am convinced that I was the one who deserve a lol. (for example I opened the "idk" hand 1♦ and missed a good 4♠) "It makes more sense to open a quacky hand than one with lots of controls (same hcp), see point 2"Obviously some were selling snake oil at that table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Points 1 is true. 2 is mostly false and also contradicts 1. Point 3 is pretty false although there is some truth (if LHO preempts and partner negative doubles, that's bad). Point 4 is a big fat LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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