DrDouble Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I don't open 1NT with a 5 card major. Assuming responder bids stayman and receives a 2♦ response. The bids 2♥ & 2♠ r now unused. What r the problems of responder biding 2♥ or 2♥ to show 5 of the suit. If opener then does not have 3 of the major they respond 2NT. This seems 2 me to be a logical "extended stayman" system but I can't find anything on it on the Internet. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 This is the normal way to play without transfers. "Extended Stayman" means something different. The main problem is when responder has five hearts and an invite, but opener bids 2♠ in response to stayman. Now you can't conveniently show your heart suit; you have to either bid 2NT (possibly missing 5-3 heart fit) or 3♥ (probably forcing). Also, you lose the ability to bid stayman on a weak hand with both majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Here are some more useful ways to use these bids: 1. 2♥ is Crawling Stayman, showing a weak hand with 4-4 majors. Opener passes with 3 ♥, corrects to 2♠ with 3 ♠, and you play in your 4-3 fit. Hopefully he didn't open 1NT with 2=2=5-4. I don't think 2♠ by responder has a meaning in this system. 2. 2♥ and 2♠ are natural, showing a weak hand with 5 in the bid major, 4 in the other. Responder was planning on passing if opener bid a major, but this allows finding at least a 5-2 fit. 3. Invitational Smolen. 2♥ and 2♠ show an invitational hand with 4 in the bid major, 5 in the other major. Opener then bids either the other major or NT at the cheapest level with a minimum, or game with a maximum. This is my personal favorite -- I'm usually happy to take a chance in 1NT with a weak responding hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I'd recommend: 2♥ as both majors weak. Opener either passes or bids 2♠. 2♠ as invitational, with five spades and four hearts. You could choose to bid this way without hearts allowing you to sometimes play 2♠ instead of 2NT (if it went 1NT-2♥-2♠-2NT). But if you do that you lose the ability to use 1NT-2♣-2♥-2♠ for another purpose. You might also use the 1NT-2♣-2♦-2♠ sequence with 5-5 in the majors and game interest if you don't have any other way to show that hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate22 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I think back to Acol days--extended stayman went 1n/t--p-- 2cl(stayman) pass 2d --p- 3d!(asking pard to bid his best 3 card major.Before days of transfers--with the exception 2n/t pass--3d--(=get lost best contract,i have 5 hts weak/weakregards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Hi, just wanted to add, that "Crawling Stayman" also implies, that 1NT - 2D2H - 2S showes an inv. hand with 5 hearts and 4 spades, which would be the complementto the beforehand mentioned seq. 1NT - 2C2D - 2S With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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