dellache Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Please, oh please ignore my previous poll, I asked the wrong question ! Obviously, I took the finesse the wrong way.The right question was... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 This one is easy. Just look at the profile rankings on BBO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Almost always worse than they think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Kid Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Having a world class getting angry at me last week for passing 1NT-4NT pretty much sums it up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Having a world class getting angry at me last week for passing 1NT-4NT pretty much sums it up... YOU MEAN YOU DIDN'T ANSWER WITH THE NUMBER OF ACES YOU HELD!!!!! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Interesting contrast here with the other poll. Sadly, most people really have an inflated opinion of their level. I did up until a few years ago, but probably have some residual ego. Its not always a bad thing. When you are playing against someone you know is good, some healthy contempt can elevate your own game. You can't sit there and think, "I suck" and expect to do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Having a world class getting angry at me last week for passing 1NT-4NT pretty much sums it up... Yeah, but I think some of those experts could be successful club players, lots of good players have zip knowledge of bidding theory. It's just more obvious that someone is bad at theory or bidding judgment, or making ridicolous PM analysis, than that he's bad a card play. I mean, many mistakes in play could be explained by players reading email or such while playing. But of course, if someone who rates himself as world class thinks 1NT-4NT should be BW without discussion, he's most likely intermediate or worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 sorry misread the answers and ruined the unanimous poll :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Good luck that just all others rate themself wrong.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu1997 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 “After considerable research, I discovered that there were half a million bridge players in California, three of whom freely admitted they were not experts.” jim kauder, the bridge philosopher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 To some degree the rating depends on one's bridge community. It's easy for people who play mostly in their local club game to believe that the best players at the club are "experts" or even "world class." If they routinely win at their local club, they rate themselves similarly. Even if some truly world-class player from out of town shows up and plays at the club, they will figure this person was just lucky to do well and is probably not as good as the top club regulars. On the other hand, people who are exposed to a wider bridge community, playing in a lot of national and international tournaments, usually have a more realistic evaluation. Sure, some people have big egos or whatever and over-rate themselves. But the people on BBF for example have a fair amount of exposure to the "real world" of bridge players and thus their evaluations are probably not off by as much as people who mostly play in a fairly insular environment. As for the BBO experts, a lot of these are people who are the best player at their local club, and then they play with random pickups in the BBO main club and this reinforces their impression that they are "expert players." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 “After considerable research, I discovered that there were half a million bridge players in California, three of whom freely admitted they were not experts.” jim kauder, the bridge philosopher Wow obviously CA has pitiful numbers of new players. After 1 week they all become experts :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Having a world class getting angry at me last week for passing 1NT-4NT pretty much sums it up... Yeah, but I think some of those experts could be successful club players, lots of good players have zip knowledge of bidding theory. It's just more obvious that someone is bad at theory or bidding judgment, or making ridicolous PM analysis, than that he's bad a card play. I mean, many mistakes in play could be explained by players reading email or such while playing. But of course, if someone who rates himself as world class thinks 1NT-4NT should be BW without discussion, he's most likely intermediate or worse. "Successful Club Player" = self-described "World Class" pretty much sums up the ego inflation factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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