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[gnasher]

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RHO passes. What do you open? If you open 1♣, what do you plan to rebid?

 

A 2NT opening would show 20-22.

Edited November 6, 2009 by gnasher

[pooltuna]

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RHO passes. What do you open? If you open 1♣, what do you plan to rebid?

 

2NT would show 20-22.

you mean in your system a 2NT rebid shows 20-22? with 8 controls I rebid that anyway.

[billw55]

I think he means, would we open it 2NT, 20-22. I would.

[Trinidad]

I would plan to rebid 2♦. But what would I do with my plan if partner responds 1♦? (I might "splinter" 3♥.)

 

Rik

[Jlall]

I'd open 2N

[helene_t]

I open 1♣, if p bids 1♠ I rebid 2♦, if he bids 1♥ I rebid 2NT. If he bids 1♦ it's nice to have 2♦ as a forcing raise, but otherwise I rebid 2NT.

[OleBerg]

The beaten path.

 

1♣ followed by a reverse. Should partner reply 1♦ I will "naturally" have the agreement that both 2♥ and 2♠ are artificial, one of them containing a strong hand with diamond support.

[jdonn]

2NT keep it simple. Though I'm not at all a fan of a 3 point opening 2NT range.

[Phil]

Agree with 2N, in spite of the upgrading junkies around here.

 

We have 2 more controls than usual, AK9xx and a married 10. I think this is just enough to upgrade.

 

However, I don't object to 1♣ - 1M - 2N. I hate 1♣ - reverse, since more than half of my points are in my short suits.

[mikeh]

I'd open 2N, but would be far more comfortable doing so if our range was 20-21. As it is, I think it extremely close, and would not criticize any partner for choosing 1♣. I would think such a partner to be overly timid if our range was 20-21.

 

While having 11/19 of our hcp in our short suits is bad, we do have 8, count them, 8 control! We will not often hold that many in a balanced 20 count. And we have a 5 card suit headed by the AK and no worries (for 3N) about our weakest suit.

 

So I upgrade.

[billw55]

I think upgrading the value is clear. The only reason not to choose 2NT is the shape, which is reasonable and a matter of taste.

 

We know aces are worth more than 4, and an AK combination is certainly worth more than 7 (the K is just as good as the A). Here also is a decent 5 card suit, a touching ten, and possibly a working 9 and 8. I would rate this hand as ~22 points value even before any fit.

 

Maybe I am just one of those "upgrade junkies" Phil is talking about :P

[Apollo81]

I would open 1♣ and reverse, thereby avoiding 2NT when partner has a flattish hand with very few hcp.

[EricK]

I would simply open 1♣. I like to look for reasons to upgrade to 1NT but I hate auctions which start 2NT so I am far more reluctant to upgrade at that level.

 

Do I have a hand which would benefit from being declarer in NT? Not particularly

Is my natural suit bid a good suit I feel happy mentioning? Yes

Will I be able to express my strength if I choose the suit opening? Probably

 

Clearly there are bad things which might happen if we choose 1♣ - we could get passed out when we have a game on, or the opponents might be able to get a cheap bid or two in, and disrupt us. But equally there are bad things which could happen after 2NT - we could miss 6♣, or partner with 55 in the majors might insist on one of his suits thinking we must have a fit.

 

So all things considered, I don't see the need to upgrade here.

[dellache]

I don't know. I think the hand is worth an upgrade for 2NT, but I fear we may miss 6m, and the (my) system over 2NT sucks for that, when pard will obviously start by looking for some Major suit. Also, if pard bids 1NT/1♣ with ♥Qxx, he will receive the lead if we happen to play NT from his hand but it's actually a very minor concern. I don't care if pard bid 4♦ (5-5MM) over 2NT, BTW.

 

So I may open 1♣ and reverse 2♦, or open 2NT. It will really depend on my mood.

The only thing I wouldn't do is open 1♣ and rebid 2NT, that would be underbiding imo.

[dake50]

Open 1D intending Jump shift 3C over 1M. Get my lead inhibitor in cheaply.

[ArtK78]

I open 1♣ and rebid 2♦ over a response of 1♥, 1♠ or 1NT.

 

At IMPs, I want to show both my strength and my distribution. I want to get to a minor suit slam if it is there, and a minor suit game if it is better than 3NT.

 

The chance of getting to 5 or 6 of a minor when it is right after opening 2NT is very small.

 

At matchpoints, there is more to be said for opening 2NT.

[billw55]

Just for fun I thought up the auction 1♣-3♥-p-p back to me. Now what? A little off topic but hey.

[kenrexford]

2NT. I'd open 2NT if the range was 21-22.

[Jlall]

Just for fun I thought up the auction 1♣-3♥-p-p back to me. Now what? A little off topic but hey.

3N lol

[the hog]

1C followed by 2D.

[andy_h]

2NT as well.

[Codo]

Surely strong enough for 2 NT, but I hate 20-22 and I do not like 22 in the majors for NT openings, so I try 1 Club.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

I dont open 2NT, I open my systemic minor and make a 2NT rebid.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Winstonm]

1C followed by 2D.

ditto.

[mike777]

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RHO passes.  What do you open?  If you open 1♣, what do you plan to rebid?

 

A 2NT opening would show 20-22.

 

 

With most of my hcp in my short suits i would try 2nt, but dislike so wide a range.