cnszsun Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sxxhaxxdq9xxckjxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP2♠-dbl-4♠-??[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 4NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Double, don't like 4NT at all with this balanced 10 count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 X, penalty. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 double. not penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliebol Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Double so easy must be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sxxhaxxdq9xxckjxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP2♠-dbl-4♠-??[/hv] X, DSIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellache Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 DBL. This is not over, pard may pull with a very distributional hand (unlikely). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Finally, a problem to which there is only one answer: Dbl. Partner is allowed to pull if he thinks we have slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 If I were to write down a minimum double in this auction, it would look like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 If I were to write down a perfect double in this auction, it would look like this. FYP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Double, and my second choice by a mile is pass not 4NT. Better to take a small plus instead of a large minus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I would have thought this was a clearcut responsive double hand?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Double for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 I'm surprised at some of the comments about what partner needs to take out this double. He should bid if he wants to play at the five-level opposite a working 2(344) 10-count. At this vulnerability that means most of the time that he has a small singleton spade and a non-minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 I disagree Gnasher, I think he should pass with pretty much every 1444 hand type unless he can force to slam. There is always some risk of going down no matter how strong you are, and the stronger you are the more you rate to beat them anyways. There is no hand I can think of where I'm thinking "I'm only going to beat them 300, but I will make game almost always" with that shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I agree that you should usually pass out the double with a 4441 shape. A non-minimum 5431 should usually bid, though. I was going to follow that by saying that 4441s form a small proportion of the hands with a singleton, but in fact 4441s comprise about 20-25% of the hands that would make a takeout double. So yes, "most of the time" was an overstatement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I agree that you should usually pass out the double with a 4441 shape. A non-minimum 5431 should usually bid, though. I was going to follow that by saying that 4441s form a small proportion of the hands with a singleton, but in fact 4441s comprise about 20-25% of the hands that would make a takeout double. So yes, "most of the time" was an overstatement. I think this is a record. You are taking back "most of the time" because it is only 75-80% of the time. Very much unlike BBF :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 I agree that you should usually pass out the double with a 4441 shape. A non-minimum 5431 should usually bid, though. I was going to follow that by saying that 4441s form a small proportion of the hands with a singleton, but in fact 4441s comprise about 20-25% of the hands that would make a takeout double. So yes, "most of the time" was an overstatement. I think this is a record. You are taking back "most of the time" because it is only 75-80% of the time. Very much unlike BBF :) Not really, he doesnt say to pull with all non minimum 5431s (which I agree with). If he passes with 20 % of those hands, and 100 % of 4441s that is adding up :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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