zheddh Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Vul against not, IMPs, you hold this hand in 1st seat. Auction goes p - (p) - 1♥ - (1♠) and back to you. Partner rates to have 5 hearts 95% of the times. 3rd seat can be weak but not by much. What's your choice and why? [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sjhqt9xxdk87xxckx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I like 3S, the diamonds are too weak to fit jump imo. I bid 3S rather than 4H because I want partner to know that I have a good hand in case they bid 4S. This runs the risk of letting LHO double to suggest a save, but I think it's worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 3S because I am a passed hand. If partner passes out or doubles 4S I can respect that. If he makes a slam try I will cooperate once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellache Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I bid 3♠.I don't really like 4♦, because I don't want to incite pard to bid on the 5 level with Diamond holdings like Qx, Qxx, Jxxx, etc. Imo, 3♠ will help pard more to decide what to do if they bid 4♠ (likely). He will know I have probably 5 trumps (I'm a passed hand, so bidding game with 14xx is less likely), and probably no good 5 card minor to mention. My 2 pence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 3♠ and I would make this call if I weren't a passed hand too. Diamonds suck for a FJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=33308&hl= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 4♦, almost perfect for a fit jump. I have a very mild slam try (4 keycards and ♦stuff? Thank you very nice partner!), 5-5, interest in 5♥ over 4♠, my ♦ honour is secondary (not the ace) etc. If I'm not fit jumping because I lack the ♦J then I suggest deleting this convention from our card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 easy 4♦. Splintering when they end up playing the hand is not very profitable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I pick 4♦ because it's more preemptive as they could double 3♠, but it still doesn't give up on slam or perhaps a good sacrifice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sjhqt9xxdk87xxckx]133|100|Scoring: IMPAuction goes p - (p) - 1♥ - (1♠) and back to you. Partner rates to have 5 hearts 95% of the times. 3rd seat can be weak but not by much. What's your choice and why?[/hv]IMO 4♦ = 10, 3♦ = 9, 3♣ = 8, 2♦ = 7, 2♣ = 6, 3♠ = 5, 2♠ = 4, 4♥ = 3, _P = 2, 3♥ = 1.As a passed hand, you could hardly be stronger in support of ♥. A jump in ♦ ... Expresses delight, Helps partner evaluate his hand if opponents compete and May simplify partner's task if you end up defending. ♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sjhqt9xxdk87xxckx]133|100|Scoring: IMPAuction goes p - (p) - 1♥ - (1♠) and back to you. Partner rates to have 5 hearts 95% of the times. 3rd seat can be weak but not by much. What's your choice and why?[/hv]IMO 4♦ = 10, 3♦ = 9, 3♣ = 8, 2♦ = 7, 2♣ =6, 3♠ = 5, 2♠ = 4, 4♥ = 3, _P = 2, 3♥ = 1. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 nige, why didnt you include 1NT? isnt it more effective than _P? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Vul against not, IMPs, you hold this hand in 1st seat. Auction goes p - (p) - 1♥ - (1♠) and back to you. Partner rates to have 5 hearts 95% of the times. 3rd seat can be weak but not by much. What's your choice and why? [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sjhqt9xxdk87xxckx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] 3♠ because I have the Q♥ a stiff and 2 other side kings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 nige, why didnt you include 1NT? isnt it more effective than _P? Possibly B) I tend evaluate only those calls that I considered making (some more stupid than others). Normally, marks below 5 are for calls I think are unlikely to be very effective but here we are so spoilt for choice that almost anything might work. I give marks because that is the kind of feedback that I like when I present a bidding problem. Usually, I am aware that I made an inferior choice but I would like to know how bad others judge my effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zheddh Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Thank you for your responses. This was the full hand. I think 4♦ works better on this deal because opener can then judge to bid 5 over 4♠. I do realize that 3♠ might work out well on some other set of hands. But a question to all the 3♠ bidders is what you do with South's hand after p - (p) - 1♥ - (1♠)3♠ - (4♠) - ? [hv=d=n&v=n&n=sjhqt9xxdk87xxckx&w=sakq9xhxdt9xcajxx&e=stxxxhxxdaxct98xx&s=sxxxhakjxxdqjxcqx]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 With respect, 3S is an awful bid with that heart length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I would bid 5H which could be making opposite a spade void or opposite x Qxxxx ATxx Kxx (hook ftw), or which could be a good save (as here). You will also often push them to 5S at this vulnerability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 With respect, 3S is an awful bid with that heart length. How many hands with only 4 hearts could splinter opposite a 3rd seat opener? I would guess 5 trumps is more common than 4 on this auction, and hands with 4 trumps often have a spade void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I think 5 heart wth the south hand is the percentage play. You have all you values outside spade, so either it makes and if it does not, it can be a great safe. Okay okay, in short: I agree with Justin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 ♦ :D 3 or 4♦ was my choice before i saw the actual hand. You want to, (1) if possible, buy the contract in sme number of ♥, and (2) if not, set the best possible stage for either you or pard to know what to do over 4♠. Pard will infer your ♠ shortness. He can't know about your 5th ♦ unless you tell him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athene Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 ♦ :D 3 or 4♦ was my choice before i saw the actual hand. You want to, (1) if possible, buy the contract in sme number of ♥, and (2) if not, set the best possible stage for either you or pard to know what to do over 4♠. Pard will infer your ♠ shortness. He can't know about your 5th ♦ unless you tell him. Your spade shortage is more important than your fifth diamond, I think. If partner has ♠xx or ♠xxx, his decision to bid on over 4♠ is often tipped by whether you have two spades or one (or none). It's easy to say "partner, with three spades, will know you have a singleton" but in my experience, if you deduce partner's shortage because of a fit the opponents ought to have, you get killed a large proportion of the time when they don't have that fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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