HeavyDluxe Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 [hv=d=n&s=s2h3dakq43cakqj74]133|100|Scoring: IMP3♠ - (p) - ??[/hv] What would you bid? What would you do different (if anything) based on vulnerability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcohio Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I'd bid whatever your ace asking bid is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Do you play anything special? I usually play 4C as keycard, but if I didn't play that I would bid that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I'd bid whatever your ace asking bid is obvious problem is you dont want to hear about the spade king. I bid 4C, and after this forum is exhausted pard and I will decide how to find out about the two aces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Do you play anything special? I usually play 4C as keycard, but if I didn't play that I would bid that. One keycard could be the SK. I play 4C as KC and 4NT as Ace ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Do you play anything special? I usually play 4C as keycard, but if I didn't play that I would bid that. One keycard could be the SK. I play 4C as KC and 4NT as Ace ask. Thats why I didn't bid keycard...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I play 4♣ is keycard. So I'll bid 4NT regular blackwood, passing if he responds 5♣ and hoping for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliebol Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I understand that you cant solve this problem if you only have 4nt here as rkc for♠ so i bid 4♣ first and on partners next bid 4nt for real aces only. If this works at the table i would be very happy. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I have no methods for ace asking O_o This is not one of those situations where weak fields make it easier for me. I really didn't find this situation before. Do you really have 2 ways for ace/keycard asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 [hv=d=n&s=s2h3dakq43cakqj74]133|100|Scoring: IMP3♠ - (p) - ??[/hv] What would you bid? What would you do different (if anything) based on vulnerability? well you are 55% that partner holds at least one of the major suit aces so slam isn't really a problem. I would start with 4♠ and over partner's 5♥ bid 6♣. Thinking about it more RKC could work out well just pass the 5♣ (see 0314 sometimes does have advantages over 1430) and bid 6 or 7♣ for the appropriate other response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 [hv=d=n&s=s2h3dakq43cakqj74]133|100|Scoring: IMP3♠ - (p) - ??[/hv] What would you bid? What would you do different (if anything) based on vulnerability? well you are 55% that partner holds at least one of the major suit aces so slam isn't really a problem. I would start with 4♠ and over partner's 5♥ bid 6♣. Thinking about it more RKC could work out well just pass the 5♣ (see 0314 sometimes does have advantages over 1430) and bid 6 or 7♣ for the appropriate other response. Are you confident partner won't pass 4♠? Natural forcing 4C followed by 4NT for me (direct 4N for me is RKC for spades). Will try 6C if partner raises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I have no methods for ace asking O_o This is not one of those situations where weak fields make it easier for me. I really didn't find this situation before. Do you really have 2 ways for ace/keycard asking? Yes. Not using 4♣ I understand of course, but what in the world other meaning are you using for 4NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 keycard blackwood with spades as fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDluxe Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I was actually watching this on BBO. N/S were a very strong pair (but I assume playing 'pickup') and I was just a little surprised at the result. The person holding the ♠2 ♥3 ♦AKQ43 ♣AKQJ74 elected to just bid 4♠. I'm guessing that there was no agreement re: what 4♣ or 4NT would be. Here's the full deal:[hv=d=s&v=n&n=s2h3dakq43cakqj74&w=sak8hqj975d98762c&e=sqj7hkt864djtc653&s=st96543ha2d5ct982]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] I just thought it'd be interested to see what folks on here would agree re: the meanings of various bids over 2♠ and what your plan would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 [hv=d=n&s=s2h3dakq43cakqj74]133|100|Scoring: IMP3♠ - (p) - ??[/hv] What would you bid? What would you do different (if anything) based on vulnerability? well you are 55% that partner holds at least one of the major suit aces so slam isn't really a problem. I would start with 4♠ and over partner's 5♥ bid 6♣. Thinking about it more RKC could work out well just pass the 5♣ (see 0314 sometimes does have advantages over 1430) and bid 6 or 7♣ for the appropriate other response. Are you confident partner won't pass 4♠? Natural forcing 4C followed by 4NT for me (direct 4N for me is RKC for spades). Will try 6C if partner raises. :) misread the auction I thought 3♠ was an opponents preempt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 :lol: misread the auction I thought 3♠ was an opponents preempt After I saw what he preempted with, I think it was an opponents preempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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