gwnn Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 1.[hv=d=s&v=b&s=sjt9xxhkxdjtxxxxc]133|100|Scoring: IMPp-p-1♥-x1♠-1NT-p-p?[/hv]2.[hv=d=s&v=b&s=sjt9xxhkxdjtxxxxc]133|100|Scoring: IMPp-p-1♥-x1♠-1NT-p-p?[/hv]3.[hv=d=s&v=b&s=sjt9xxhkxdjtxxxxc]133|100|Scoring: IMPp-p-1♥-x1♠-1NT-p-p?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWM Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 1. Pass, I would have passed the first double.2. 4♥, I would have bid 3♥ in the round before to confirm the 6th ♥.3. What does 2NT show? is Drury a tool in play here? If 3♣ shows 5-5 then I would bid that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 DWM I edited my post somewhat, yes we play drury but we didn't specifically discuss when we bid 2♣ and when we bid 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 2D, 4S, 3N. 3N on the last because we really need partner to not have spade wastage in order to make slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 2d 4d(2h showed 6 for me)(side note....4h now over 4d would be rkc in d for me...not hearts) 3nt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 1. 2♦, can't give up to 1NT with 6-5.2. 4♠, the void is ok. 4♥ would be a suggestion to play.3. 3NT. We can still find out about the solidity of the clubs if partner is able to cooperate with 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 2D, 4S, 3N. 3N on the last because we really need partner to not have spade wastage in order to make slam. Yep 4♠ for 2) as it looks like partner is begging for a ♠stop since he bypassed his option to show 2 card ♥ support and was unable to qbid ♠ himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWM Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Why 4S on the second hand? I thought 2♥ bid is a catch all bid as reverses still show strength so could easily show a 5 card suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Why 4S on the second hand? I thought 2♥ bid is a catch all bid as reverses still show strength so could easily show a 5 card suit. mainly because you already supported ♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWM Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 To try and answer the whats going on I would say that responder has a strong minors. 4♣ I took as a control show. The 11 points hold are probably the perfect 11 points for responder so I would cooperate showing my lowest conrtol. I would expect 3-4 losers in the majors and I know I can cover 3 of them, however, I would also hope that P would make another slam try bid after 4♥ from me if he had two solid minor suits. I still think not bidding 3♥ made openers further bidding problamatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 board 2 we got to grand after 1♥-2♦2♥-3♣3♦-4♣4♠-4NT5♥-6♣7♦ partner had xxx-AKQJTAJxxx diamond lead club ruff heart ruff club ruff heart ruff diamonds but alas! diamonds are 4-1 so we got a disappointing -300. but it's not a very good contract, who gets the blame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWM Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 the 4NT bid was too much, bid 5♦ a 5 loser hand is worth a slam try but not two. The 7♦ bid is very agressive, once partner has taken control I dont think you should take the control back unless you have a lot of unmentioned values. 6♦ is by far the best bid after 6♣. 1♥ - 2♦2♥- 3♣3♥ - 3♠3NT - Pass I think that the final pass is very hard, but knowing opener has 6 hearts, and up to 4 spades its possible to not have a 8 card fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I would just bid 6D over 6C, 6C should really ask for a useful club control or source of tricks. As for over 4C, 4S is pretty much mandatory, partner is begging for a spade control, don't torture him :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Haven't thought about the rest of the auction really, but 7D is way too much. Your void is just not that useful with 3 small trumps. You have no extras really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 hand 3 partner has a 13 count!? QJxxAQxxJxxxK but I was a complete pessimist and bid 4♥. Can slam be reached somehow? (oh hand 1 i did something completely stupid, and will not post anything about it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 slam can always be reached when you show the 2 hands gwnn :lol: On this case partner has to think that even with his ♠QJ wasted opposite singleton he has great cards and cue 4♣ that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 hand 3 partner has a 13 count!? QJxxAQxxJxxxK but I was a complete pessimist and bid 4♥. Can slam be reached somehow? (oh hand 1 i did something completely stupid, and will not post anything about it) Not sure how great slam is opposite this hand. If you bid 3N short spades, partner will bid 4C, you will bid 4H (rather than last train, you've already made 1 try so if partner has the nuts he will keep bidding) and not sure what will happen after that (maybe 5H, 6H, or 5H pass, or just pass). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 slam can always be reached when you show the 2 hands gwnn :) On this case partner has to think that even with his ♠QJ wasted opposite singleton he has great cards and cue 4♣ that's all. hmm you think this hand should drive it opposite a club cuebid? I dunno even if partner always has the king he could have hands like AJxx Qxxx Jxx Kx pretty easily, or he could have hands with stiff clubs like Qxxx AQxx Qxxx x where slam is pretty bad. I have reconsidered though and think this hand is worth 4D over 4C but should respect a signoff after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 hand 3 partner has a 13 count!? QJxxAQxxJxxxK but I was a complete pessimist and bid 4♥. Can slam be reached somehow? Yes, with 2-way Drury. I've often wondered why 2NT! ( in the absense of a DBL ) is used to show a limit raise w/4 instead of 2D! ?? 4th seat open: 1H - 2D!3S! - 4C4NT! - 5D6H - 2D! = 2-way Drury, limit w/43S! = Sp shortness4C! = mixed cue4NT! = Voidwood ( Meckwell ) whereas 4S! = RKC for Hts5D = 1 key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Maybe I'm still not getting it, but why is slam so good? I mean if trumps are 2-2 then you can set up clubs and ruff a diamond (unless RHO has Jxxxx of clubs and they found the diamond lead, not negligible). But that's IF trumps are 2-2. If trumps are 3-1 and your line is simply pulling trumps then you'll be reduced to dropping the CJ in 3 rounds or a very very favorable diamond position. I guess you have some added chance that they'll lead from KQ of diamonds, or they'll lead the ace of spades also. All in all doesn't seem that great. Is there some better line that involves cross ruffing or something? That seems to require 3 rounds of clubs to live and then you're always in danger of getting overruffed etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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