pirate22 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 negative x's when partner opens 1 any opps come in as given original hand. try this I play and split up the negative x to give pard a combined point count of our hands so 1cl-1sp x now = 8-11 points-any shape 1n/t now=12-14 with stop 2sp now =12-14 no stop 2n/t now = 15 points (can have stop/no stop(await pards rebid)same applies if pard opens 1d(but i play min 4 card suit) " " " " 1h or 1sp and opps come in 2 minor or 1sp over pards 1ht. at least partner who opens say 11/12/13/14/15 points,knows the combined point count,of our handsSmall point 1cl-1sp 2cl/2d/2ht/2sp shows less than 8 points and is competing regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dunno if this is standard but I would treat the negative double as just showing hearts and would bid the same as after 1♣-(P)-1♥-(2♠), not using any special treatment due to the negative double. With four card 'support' I would always raise not double. If the negative double might not have hearts we are talking about a completely different problem so we need to know which it is. Anyway in that case I would still bid hearts as a 4-3 looks better than NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I'd just bid game. It might be a slight overbid, but so be it. Where I play, I'd expect the majority of the field to bid game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate22 Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 having opened 1cl and opps come in 1sp what does pards x mean ? lets presume values/or maybe a ht suit--------using my form of negative x, it would show 8-11 points any shape-now 2 spades comes in---what does the 1cl know?that the partnership has min 22/25 points,so what is our game in n/t or a suit contract,to show my pard i have a good opener i bid ,now x(regenerative x)if less than 14 i bid 3 hts and if pard now bids 3n/t, he has spade stop and probably not a ht suit,if this not the case he will bid 4 hts-and your dcision now is pass---may go 1 off but nothing lost, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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