DWM Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Not sure if it is just me but with ....... KJxATxx Q9xx...... xx If they have 11 tricks off the top outside diamonds it does not matter who opens the suit up as they only need 1 trick. A low diamond would put them to the guess but its still as makeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Not sure if it is just me but with ....... KJxATxx Q9xx...... xx If they have 11 tricks off the top outside diamonds it does not matter who opens the suit up as they only need 1 trick. A low diamond would put them to the guess but its still as makeable. His point was that they will misguess 100 % of the time if you underlead your ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellache Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 If the diamond ace is wrong and you play with a good partner the post mortem should be short namely : shrug, next please.Of course we NEVER have any postmortem at the table. Actually, we never say a word and focus to stay pokerface all the time, especially when we double them into 2♠ making +1. But we DO have bloody postmortems at the end of the event :) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 As a possibly interesting experiment I counted who was for dA and who was against and got in time order: (diamond Ace-not diamond Ace)1-5jlall's post (not counted)7-2without barryallen and MFA relatively uncertain posts it's 1-4 and 7-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 they had 29 hcp in between them. their diamonds are KJx in dummy and xx in hand, no discards. Nobody else bid this slam. So basically it's like: ♦A ----> 0%♦------>100%something else---->50% Unlucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 they had 29 hcp in between them. their diamonds are KJx in dummy and xx in hand, no discards. Nobody else bid this slam. So basically it's like: ♦A ----> 0%♦------>100%something else---->50% Who underleads a Qxxx against this auction? I think small ♦ is still 0%, ok maybe 20%. Not leading a ♦ is definitely more likely to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Free: no it's not, i actually asked RHO and he said he'd definitely have played the jack. Anyway last week I underlead a K against a slam and we took A and K and the players (all 3, plus two kibs) were like "wow! underleading a K against a slam! that's impossible!" so in this club they'd have played me for the Q 90+% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 I likely would lead club. The last card I lead is the DA...yes I would lead a small one before the ACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Free: no it's not, i actually asked RHO and he said he'd definitely have played the jack. Anyway last week I underlead a K against a slam and we took A and K and the players (all 3, plus two kibs) were like "wow! underleading a K against a slam! that's impossible!" so in this club they'd have played me for the Q 90+% Sorry, but in IMPS, a small card away from a K or Q is routine vs a small slam for all good players especially if there is no indication that it might be setting up a side suit for declarer. Not as sure about MP but I certainly would where we need to set up a setting side trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 which part of my reply are you contesting :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 which part of my reply are you contesting :lol: he supported your view. BTW I had lead a low club before Justin wrote, an ace after his comment and now: A low diamond is the obvious expert choice, nothing else will be as often right as this lead. ..no, I had lead the ace and shrugged my shoulders after the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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