gwnn Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 xxxxxATxxxxxx 1NT-2♣2♥-4NT(rkc)5♥-6♥ at matchpoints. opps are relatively young if that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWM Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I like going by when in doubt lead the ace against a slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I'd lead a club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryallen Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 ♣ or A♦ depending upon whether I feel we should be active or not. Tend to favour the ♣ with no inclination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 The auction does not suggest a threatening side suit, so I lead passive. ♣ or ♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I like going by when in doubt lead the ace against a slam. This is a huge myth, I don't know why non-expert players think this is true (my feeling is that this used to be more popular back in the day). There are only a couple ways this can gain and two huge, very likely ways it can lose (sacrifice a tempo, and more importantly solve all of declarer's diamond problems). This is not the kind of auction where you're worried at all that they might make 7 if you don't take the ♦A anyway, you should be trying to set up a black suit trick before they can knock out your ♦A or at the very least just not give anything away. I would lead a club, I think it's safer than a spade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I hate the diamond Ace lead but think the trump lead is the safer (not always) passive lead. Especially if dummy has a stiff diamond and I get to lead a second trump. Hoping declarer has to go find a black Queen or two with no help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 DA before they make 7. It also gives us a chance if we have the DK as well, or if we can ruff a diamond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 This is not the kind of auction where you're worried at all that they might make 7 if you don't take the ♦A anyway Why? They are unlimited in their values, all they did was bid keycard then find out they were off the DA and stop in 6. We don't even have a jack in another suit. Looks pretty bleak to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 This is not the kind of auction where you're worried at all that they might make 7 if you don't take the ♦A anyway Why? They are unlimited in their values, all they did was bid keycard then find out they were off the DA and stop in 6. We don't even have a jack in another suit. Looks pretty bleak to me. Amen!!! if this a weak or inexperienced pair you can bet they are not alone in slam. Collect that ace while you can. As an aside if there is a trump finesse you have given declarer a reason to finesse you for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I really don't have strong feelings about this. Unless the opponents are really n00bs, I seriously doubt we are cashing two diamonds on this auction, but I am a little hopeful pard can ruff the 2nd. Its probably 50-50 whether or not the diamond lead gives away the contract versus holding it to 6. But its the 5-10% chance of giving pard a ruff is why I lead it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 This is not the kind of auction where you're worried at all that they might make 7 if you don't take the ♦A anyway Why? They are unlimited in their values, all they did was bid keycard then find out they were off the DA and stop in 6. We don't even have a jack in another suit. Looks pretty bleak to me. Amen!!! if this a weak or inexperienced pair you can bet they are not alone in slam. Collect that ace while you can. As an aside if there is a trump finesse you have given declarer a reason to finesse you for it. If you like unlikelly scenarios try giving partner ♦Qx :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Bad policy or bad bridge to base your lead on weakness or inexperience of the opps? They were noted as being YOUNG as opposed to any of the above which leads me to believe they are on about 27 HCP's. One of them has the diamond 7 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 It is always funny to me when people post that there is no way good opps will ever be off the AK of diamonds here. Keep bidding scienfitically and always getting the right lead against you and I'll keep blasting when I have a good enough hand to drive to slam and even if we are off the AK of diamonds my opps won't lead it. I think stayman and then keycard is a good bid with x AQJx xx AKQxxx or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yahooya Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 why not lead ♥? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryallen Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 why not lead ♥? As Donald would have put it "There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns". Or as his partner would have explained, 5♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 ♦A stands out by a mile imo. First of all, partner may have ♦K and we have 2 tricks. Second, he may also have ♥Qx or ♥Qxx and declarer may give that to us since we lead an Ace. Third we may have a ♦ ruff. Forth opps may have 13 tricks if we don't lead our Ace immediately.Yes, it may give the contract away, but that won't be as frequent as it will be a winner imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Agree with ♦A lead for the reasons set forth by several posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Agree with several posters on ♦A. I very seldom lead aces vs slams, but this one really looks right at MP. Harder choice at IMPs, I'd probably lead a club then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Agree with several posters on ♦A...... Yea, but they are all "non-experts" so it doesn't matter what they think. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWM Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I read about leading aces against slams in a book. So it must be correct. Saying that I cant remember if they said it was a good thing or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellache Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 ♦A at MP, x♣ at IMPs.1. They can easily make 13 tricks on this sequence. 2. Sometimes we make the first two tricks in ♦. At Imps, I would consider reason 2 alone to be too borderline in itself, compared to the risk of giving the 12th. Always difficult in the postmortem with pards when you choose wrong :lol: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliebol Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 If the diamond ace is wrong and you play with a good partner the post mortem should be short namely : shrug, next please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 This is somewhat about trust. The opponents are having a very strong auction. If they are good players I agree that ♦A is likely to be the percentage lead. But a not-so-good player will often not have a 'blackwood hand' as responder. Maybe because he just overbid or maybe because he didn't really have the tools for doing anything else and had to stab (with blackwood being a mandatory ritual). Against such players I think it is sensible to go passive (♥) and hope for a reasonably balanced dummy. Were it not for the ♦T I would have no qualms about the ♦A lead at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 they had 29 hcp in between them. their diamonds are KJx in dummy and xx in hand, no discards. Nobody else bid this slam. So basically it's like: ♦A ----> 0%♦------>100%something else---->50% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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