deep Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Sistem 5° Major diamond 4° no bergen [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sa9752h8da9853c103]133|100|[/hv] 1♠ (pass) ? No bergen, and i think with ♥ splinter it is not done, but 4♠ dont like me is too weak. What to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 what's 2NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Sry, you have a nice hand, but you can at best make a slight invitation toward slam, so if you want to make a move toward slam - 4H. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 what's 2NT? 2nt is like Brgen an not can play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 2♦ followed by ♠ raise, or a jump raise if that is played as weaker. Simple and effective. Leave the remainder to partner. I would not use Jacoby 2NT, even if it were available. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Surely if you are weak, you want to bid 4♠ before the opponents have time to find their club or heart fit. However, if you don't bid 4♠ I think 2♦ is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I think anything is better than 4♠. I would bid 2NT if that's my forcing raise, or whatever else is instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 If you don't play 4♥ as a splinter, you could use 3NT as a heart splinter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I would splinter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 2N, want to hear partner has a stiff D way more than I want to hear anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Sistem 5° Major diamond 4° no bergen [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sa9752h8da9853c103]133|100|[/hv] 1♠ (pass) ? No bergen, and i think with ♥ splinter it is not done, but 4♠ dont like me is too weak. What to do? I don't like the splinter either but because I should have more than 2 aces and for 4♠ I don't like it either because I am too strong nevertheless given my choices I will guess with 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woefuwabit Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 In several of my partnerships I play fit-showing jump shifts over 1M. A jump to 3♦ would show something an 8 loser or less hand maximum 10 hcp and at least 5-4 in M + ♦ and is typically invitational. If opener rebids 3M I still have the option to raise to 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I start 2D and delayed H-splinter. Tell partner D-KQ, C-A, S-K, H-xxx is gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Assuming pard does not open on junk I will risk....2nt....good post. Bergen really helps here ...btw.... I could bid 4d in full bergen....5 spades and unknown outside ace basically in a very limted hand.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I start 2D and delayed H-splinter. Tell partner D-KQ, C-A, S-K, H-xxx is gold. Agree with 2D. One problem with this though is that partner will overvalue Qx in the suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I start 2D and delayed H-splinter. Tell partner D-KQ, C-A, S-K, H-xxx is gold. Agree with 2D. One problem with this though is that partner will overvalue Qx in the suit. non expert...hate 2d..hate 4h sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I would bid 2NT, but an immediate splinter also seems very reasonable. I don't like diamond bids at all. I pretty much always want to show 4 (or more) card spade support on the first round of bidding. Also Axxxx is not the sort of suit we want to be telling partner about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I thought that the original poster meant that 4♥ wasn't available as a splinter. If I can bid 4♥, I'll do that. I don't think it's too weak or too strong for that. 2NT would be OK if it said "I want to know if you have a singleton, and after that I'm making all the decisions." in my partnerships, however, what it actually says is "I have a game-forcing raise based on high cards; let's discuss where to play." It would work really well if partner had KQxxx xxx x AKxx, but less well if he had KQxxx KQx Qxx AK, on which he might reasonably go to the five (or six) level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I would splinter with 3 NT, without this tool 2 NT as a forcing raise. A 4 ♥ splinter should be very well and tight defined because partner has no space to ask for claryfication. And this hand does not fit my definition of the splinter at all. And as Ron said: 2 Diamond so that partner upgrades his Qx is no good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I think the opening poster meant to tell us that 4H is not played as a splinter and neither is 2NT played as jacoby. If both are true tears are in my eyes but I must bid 4S. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I think the opening poster meant to tell us that 4H is not played as a splinter and neither is 2NT played as jacoby. If both are true tears are in my eyes but I must bid 4S. :rolleyes: So the question was: I have no system to show my hand, so which lie should I use? In this case I would bid 4 Spade too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 2NT for me. I can show or ask about shortness later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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