Hanoi5 Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 All white, it goes: 1♦ Pa 1♥ ??? You hold: ♠KJ95432♥T73♦---♣T53 What's your bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 I think even in england they wouldn't bid 4S :( 3S seems really normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I think even in england they wouldn't bid 4S :) 3S seems really normal. An alternative is 2♠ trying to screw up their 3 level vs game judgment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 3♠, I would need some more stuffing in the spade suit to bid 4 on this hand w/w. An alternative is 2♠ trying to screw up their 3 level vs game judgment. Um, no. If you only bid 2♠ because you don't think the hand is worth a 3♠ pre-empt, we disagree on the evaluation of the hand, but not necessarily on the bridge logic. But if you think the hand is worth 3♠, and cunningly make a lower preempt to give opponents a different problem, this is wrong. You are just giving them an easier problem (and also making yourself an opponent much in demand). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 3♠. If I want to screw up their judgment, pass works better than 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 The way you screw up their judgment is to bid the highest bid possible. But of course that might not be safe, so you bid the highest bid that has the desired level of safety. That is 3♠ to me here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 3S for me. Seems normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 The way you screw up their judgment is to bid the highest bid possible. But of course that might not be safe, so you bid the highest bid that has the desired level of safety. That is 3♠ to me here. Obviously 3♠ is a no-brainer. But, I disagree that the best way to screw up their "judgment" is always to make the highest preempt available. Passing (strange and stupid though it may be) has the potential of screwing up their judgment more than 2♠ in my opinion because the opponents are left in the dark as to the layout. Thus, they might bid to the right level but then never play the hand for this wild of a split. They might think somehow that there is no risk to playing one fiamond early for some reason during the play, or something like that. In SOME situations, preempts obviously can help the opponents a lot. If the opponents reach the right spot anyway, and the preempt did not harm, then the opponents are ahead of the game in the play. 2♠ is the worst of all options. It minimizes preemption, making the task of reaching the right contract easier, while still providing info for the opponents to use in the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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