Mbodell Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 But a bunch of fairly good bridge players couldn't agree. Playing "standard" what is the correct NT lead from a suit of AJ98? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 8 is completely standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Of course the 8, I don't even know what the other option is supposed to be. The ace? That is just silly. The 9? The 8 is hard enough to read but the 9 is even harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Of course the 8, I don't even know what the other option is supposed to be. The ace? That is just silly. The 9? The 8 is hard enough to read but the 9 is even harder. Kranyak was in the bulletin once for leading the jack from this and catching Tx on right and Qxx on left :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Of course the 8, I don't even know what the other option is supposed to be. The ace? That is just silly. The 9? The 8 is hard enough to read but the 9 is even harder. Kranyak was in the bulletin once for leading the jack from this and catching Tx on right and Qxx on left :P I remember it, I think it was Txx on his right, even better lol. But for one thing they had bid the suit on his left (reversed into a 3 card suit) which clearly makes a higher lead better, and for another if Kranyak did it then it can't be standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Of course the 8, I don't even know what the other option is supposed to be. The ace? That is just silly. The 9? The 8 is hard enough to read but the 9 is even harder. Kranyak was in the bulletin once for leading the jack from this and catching Tx on right and Qxx on left :P I played this same board and I think we talked about this about 3-4 years ago. Dallas NABC Open Pairs. If I recall, you still had the opportunity to find the shift, but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattieShoe Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 AJ98J983AJT9 These would be standard, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 #1 yes#2 no, the 3#3 yes Wih kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 AJ98J983AJT9 These would be standard, yes? Basically, for a sequence (or interior sequence), you want it headed by an honor, and against NT, it should be a 3-card sequence (or 3-card broken sequence, but broken at the bottom, not the top (e.g. top 2 cards touching)). So: KT97 but AJ98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 J98x is somewhat debatable, but I believe the expert community currently agrees with leading the x. I am a big proponent of the x also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 A few of you know this story. In the Swiss at Irvine a month ago I had agreed to play 10 or 9 shows "0 or 2 higher". Partner led the 9 and dummy flopped 10-x and covered. I wasn't excited about defensive prospects looking at the Qxx and decided to switch at about T6 to cut down on overtricks. Turns out the 9 was from AJ98x LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Of course the 8, I don't even know what the other option is supposed to be. The ace? That is just silly. The 9? The 8 is hard enough to read but the 9 is even harder. The 9 was the other option that held a minority opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyhung Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Perhaps you should redefine your definition of "fairly good" player, then. At least in their understanding of standard leads, I would define them as "bad". Defense can be really difficult if partner could have a good holding (AJ98) or a weak holding (9xx, 98x). This point is highlighted by the ambiguity of the standard lead of the 8: because the 8 can be from strong holdings (AJ98, AQ98, KJ98, sometimes KQ98) as well as weak holdings (8xx, 8x, sometimes T8xx), it can create some confusion amongst advancing players who see the 8 and make the knee-jerk assumption that their partner is leading from weakness. I see no benefit to extending this confusion to the 9 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Heh when I see the 8 I still think AJ98 immediately even though top of weakness is much more likely, guess it's because I started with 4th best and low from xxx/xxxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Heh when I see the 8 I still think AJ98 immediately even though top of weakness is much more likely, guess it's because I started with 4th best and low from xxx/xxxx. That's what I think all the time, but usually I get disappointed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 But a bunch of fairly good bridge players couldn't agree. Playing "standard" what is the correct NT lead from a suit of AJ98? As a nonexpert not discussed yet is the issue of leading from such a suit vs nt. If we try and lead from a 5 card suit or if none we try and find partner's 5 card suit baring all of the above I would guess to lead from a 4 card suit......low to show 4 cards and something...high to show 4 cards and nothing. Another option I guess would be to not lead from a 4 card suit but lead neutral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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