mich-b Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 It seems to me that this is not the appropriate place for this thread. What you are discussing here is not really "bridge" , not "interesting bridge hands" , and perhaps barely "bridge related discussion".IMHO , this thread should be moved elsewhere, so that people , like myself, who are not interested in that other game you are discussing , will not waste time on skipping this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 It seems to me that this is not the appropriate place for this thread. What you are discussing here is not really "bridge" , not "interesting bridge hands" , and perhaps barely "bridge related discussion".IMHO , this thread should be moved elsewhere, so that people , like myself, who are not interested in that other game you are discussing , will not waste time on skipping this thread. We wasted more time reading your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeac Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I dont have anything to add as far as the bidding but jdonn beat me recently in one of these by .10% :( You got a 34.57%? :P I'm definitely better at the robot races. I'm still good at these but high variance, I get lots of tops and bottoms (opposite of how I play in real life) so have a fair amount of lousy tourneys. yeah unfortunately the robot likes to pull my 3nt bid to 4h. i think i just need to figure out the bidding a little bit better and be less agressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 It seems to me that this is not the appropriate place for this thread. What you are discussing here is not really "bridge" , not "interesting bridge hands" , and perhaps barely "bridge related discussion".IMHO , this thread should be moved elsewhere, so that people , like myself, who are not interested in that other game you are discussing , will not waste time on skipping this thread. WTF? If I didn't think you made intelligent posts, I would tell you to go f*** yourself but you probably have some reasons for the way you feel about this. What are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 It seems to me that this is not the appropriate place for this thread. What you are discussing here is not really "bridge" , not "interesting bridge hands" , and perhaps barely "bridge related discussion".IMHO , this thread should be moved elsewhere, so that people , like myself, who are not interested in that other game you are discussing , will not waste time on skipping this thread. We wasted more time reading your post. Actually I totally agree with him that there should be a GIB/BEST HAND/ROBOT RACE etc forum. Best hand tourneys are not really related to bridge as played by most people. On the other hand such a forum does not exist, so for now he should just not read threads related to best hand tourneys if he hates that game so much, and accept that there's not really anywhere else to post about them, and they're related enough to bridge and BBO that it is not off topic to have threads about the problems that come up there. JDONN FOR MOD OF GIB FORUM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I actually didn't mind that he wanted it moved, it was the last comment. Oh no, sorry for wasting your time skipping a thread sir! Um, if it takes more time than sneezing then you probably are a lousy thread-skipper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 1. ♠KT ♥A732 ♦A743 ♣JT2 1♦ - 1♥1♠ - ? OK, we know GIB opened on its usual crap, but its easy to see how a distributional 4-6 gives a laydown 5♦, or nine runners in NT. I'm not sure I understand the safety concerns of 1N and 2♦. If GIB pard truly hates his hand, then it will pass our invite. I do agree this is a marginal GF against a 1♠ rebid that rates to have 12+ instead 12=>. To bid 2♣ fails to understand GIBs. I rebid 3♦. Here's what happened: Hand 1 GIB guessed spades (should have laid off them) for +110 and 76%. Your opponent bid 2N. Here's what happened: Hand 1 - Mark GIB tracks the club (even led a count card 3) and it looks like the defense is poised to take 1S, 1H, 1D and 3C. But after conceding a diamond, GIB cashes the ♣A so +120 was scored for a 91% board. Top was +150 when someone rebid 1N and GIB defended similar to 2N, but a little worse. Nearly all the field is getting overboard here, so any plus is worth at least 65% - someone rebid 2♦ and was made on the nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Actually I totally agree with him that there should be a GIB/BEST HAND/ROBOT RACE etc forum. Best hand tourneys are not really related to bridge as played by most people. W/E. I just didn't appreciate the attitude like Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I'm not sure I understand the safety concerns of 1N and 2♦. If GIB pard truly hates his hand, then it will pass our invite. So if gib is going to pass our invite lets say 95 % of the time then the obvious reason to stay one level lower is: GIB tracks the club (even led a count card 3) and it looks like the defense is poised to take 1S, 1H, 1D and 3C. Ie they can hold it to 1 so 2N is going down and: someone rebid 2♦ and was made on the nose. ie had they bid 3D they would go down combined with: Nearly all the field is getting overboard here, so any plus is worth at least 65% seems like you answered your own question. Basically I think the chance that 3D/2N goes down is more significant than the small chance we miss game even given that if we invite and partner accepts then game will probably be good, it's just such an unlikely occurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 7. ♠KJ63, ♥AKQ985, ♦5, ♣J8 (all vul); 1♥ - (pass) - 2♥ - (dbl);? Hand 7 Not much here. I just chose to invite with 3♥ and GIB accepted. 78% Mark chose to invite with 2♠ which might be a better call in retrospect, but there's a lot to be said for just bidding game. GIB refused the game invite and he was +170 - 54%. Amazing that 40% of the declarers failed to take 10 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Phil how do you know it was the M not the S? Just saying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Phil how do you know it was the M not the S? Just saying... I don't for sure. The S sometimes (usually?) plays under a different name too. But if you look at each hand, the MS did play pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 7. ♠KJ63, ♥AKQ985, ♦5, ♣J8 (all vul); 1♥ - (pass) - 2♥ - (dbl);? Hand 7(...) Amazing that 40% of the declarers failed to take 10 tricks. Amazing that 40% of declarer pulled trump instead of setting up a ruff. How could this happen, on BBO?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) Btw, there is another reason to bid 1N, rather than 2N: GIB is more likely to misdefend if we claim to have 10 hcp or less.Edit: Oh, Phil mentioned in fact that this happened! Edited October 13, 2009 by cherdanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 7. ♠KJ63, ♥AKQ985, ♦5, ♣J8 (all vul); 1♥ - (pass) - 2♥ - (dbl);? Hand 7(...) Amazing that 40% of the declarers failed to take 10 tricks. Amazing that 40% of declarer pulled trump instead of setting up a ruff. How could this happen, on BBO?? were they expert or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 3. ♠A ♥AK ♦AJ873 ♣KQT86 1♦- 1♥3♣ - 3♠? As I said, 3♠ is noted as 5+H's, 5+ S's (!); 4 card heart, 6+ points. Pretty strange description. Ari - whats up with this? I have an extra King, and a 5th club. I wasn't totally sure about our ability to stop in 4N, but 3N seemed like a position with a hand this good, although I do not know GIB's tendencies with stronger hands. Plus, it was evident the description was wrong. I tried 4♣. GIB 4♦. At this point maybe I'm worth a cue, but I figured pulling 3N has already shown my hand and just bid 5♦. I have seen how GIB views these 'slam tries' on top of already strong bidding as some sort of 25+ nonsense. I'm too lazy to pass my mouse over every conceivable bid. Partner held: Q9xx JTxxx xxxx void which is a totally obvious 3♦ call to me and doesn't fit the description at all, so maybe I lucked out. LH led the ♦K from KQ and hearts were friendly (Qx in LHO) so I made 6. 620 was 58% Counterpart bid 3N which actually doesn't play too bad. You can look at the movie but someone managed to go -1. 18%. 9 tricks does look normal so give yourself 32% for 3N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I am flat addicted to ACBL Robot DOOPS. WD Uday and Fred. Yesterday, I signed up for a tourney. I didn't recognize anyone on the list except a recent hall of famer. Interesting, I thought. Here are five key bidding decisions. Get them right and maybe one day you'll be in the hall of fame too. All MPs. 1. ♠KT ♥A732 ♦A743 ♣JT21♦ - 1♥1♠ - ? 3. ♠A ♥AK ♦AJ873 ♣KQT861♦ - 1♥3♣ - 3♠?3♠ is noted as 5+H's, 5+ S's (!); 4 card heart, 6+ points 7. ♠KJ63, ♥AKQ985, ♦5, ♣J8 (all vul); 1♥ - (pass) - 2♥ - (dbl);? 9. ♠A9x ♥KQ876 ♦AKJ ♣A8What is your opening bid? I'll give you the continuation in a few hours. 11. ♠QJT7x ♥K ♦Q9xxx ♣A8 (nv / nv)1♠ - (pass) - 2♠ - (3♥)?IMO1. 2N. 3. 3N.7. 4♥.9. 2N.11. 3♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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