uday Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 I just want to get a couple of things clear re. pay tourneys a) BBO is directly involved in running the ACBL tourneys thru Gweny and the ACBL_xx usernames. BBO does not run any other pay tourneys. B) The other pay tourneys you see are the first drops in a drizzle of pay tourneys. They are not run by BBO. Rather, BBO has set up the means by which they can be run by independent TDs who think they can offer value to their customers. Anyone with a track record of running tourneys is welcome to email me to discuss running their own pay tourneys. c) We have no immediate plans for running any other pay tourneys ourselves, although we expect more and more pay tourneys to pop up over time. d) We have not altered our basic philosophy (we will try our hardest to keep basic play and vugraph free on BBO.) This does not mean that we have any objection to commerce on BBO. To the contrary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz K. Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Do you have any statistics? I'm interested, how many players from how many countries were played any pay tournament. How many players from Poland were played? I think not a lot... Could we buy less than 10BB$, f.ex. 2 or 3...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uday Posted July 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 I see no reason to publish these stats on the www, but contact me privately if you care and i'll see if we can help. We don't currently maintain such stats, tho it would not be hard to do so. The fees for collection from CCs make it impractical to try to collect less than $10 (even that results in a painful surcharge). If someone could only come up with a decent micropayment system... My email address is uday@ you know where Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aisha759 Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 I have noticed many paid turneys which were free in the past... I would very much appreciate someone answering what the benefits of the paid ones are( to the TD as well as to the participants), as opposed to the free ones? How does the TD decide on how much it will cost to enter?( some cost 20cents, some 50, others $1) How successful are they? I check to see how many tables are in play during the paid turneys, and notice the lack of participation in some which used to be very popular... I am sure there is a very valid reason for paying to play in a tournament on BBO.... so please someone, enlighten me :lol: Curious Aisha :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdulmage Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 I just wanted to say you guys are doing a great job. I mean $1.00 per game is great and unlike those annual memberships that other ACBL online games charge, I can pay when I want and play when I want. Good job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirjam_3 Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Hi Aisha, Well, i want to help you with my 2 cents thoughts. First: What price can be asked for a tournament?A TD can decide how much he/she charges for a tournament between certain ranges. I remember the lowest possible charge was 20 cents and uday promised me to change it in future, since i counted lots of fees for those who played a lot. In the meantime i started to charge the 20 cents though my original thoughts were 1 cent pro board. Maybe i go do that later. Second: Why paid tournaments?If you go play bridge and than than main bridge u can read the club news. On the second page BBO states BBO will try to stay a free site for main bridge and vu's but some tourneys will be paid. Certainly we all understand that the BBO site cost money and BBO has to get money from sponsors and/or members. Since most of us play at BBO with lots of fun i think some of us can pay a little fee for tournaments if they like them. Others still can make free tournaments for those who cannot pay for them so no worry about those. In that way we all can happily play all together on BBO. I believe i never saw a site where one worked that hard to make the site better every day and at the end i think people like uday and the vu guys andsoon sd be paid by US, the ones who profit from their efforts. Third: Why do i charge 0.20 for Glamour?If i run free tournaments my computer cannot handle them. If i get lots of calls i get booted and i cannot run more than 4 movies at once or i get stuck. So i need a better computer. Since the ONLY reason to do so is the ability to run tournaments for YOU i think some of you can help me to raise funds for it. Secondly i see the fee as a little profit for my efforts. I am an invalid (last stage of brest cancer) living mostly in bed so i have time to run good tournaments for you. My illness is very expensive and i do not see lots of possibilities to make money. Some i make tru writing and other i might make tru BBO. Anyhow i needed money to make my house compatable for my electric wheel chair that cost me 200 euro every month. I am not starving, in Holland we have insurance for if ill, so i get 80% of my salary being ill but u understand i need more. F.e. the computer has to wait. I have 3 studying kids and if possible i try to support them a little bit. Really, this is not meant to tell you i am a person to be sorry for. See me as a person that tries to live!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aisha759 Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Hi Mirjam :) Thank you for your answers... my questions were genuine and i wanted to understand the changes, and who profited from them... My post was NOT a complaint, it was a query on why some, like you, charged so little as opposed to others who charged $1 (which again, is nothing). but 20 cents is too cheap!! :) I have the utmost respect for what you are doing, and hope you will be able to raise the money you need, (but you definitely need to charge a little more than that) B) I havent been able to play in turneys as often as i would like to lately, due to the fact that i cannot commit for too many boards... this is just temporary, and i hope to get back to it, and i will definitely help you raise funds ..... Have a great day or evening :P Aisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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