cnszsun Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=e&s=saxxha10xxdakjxxcx]133|100|Scoring: IMPps-ps-2♠-??[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=e&s=saxxha10xxdakjxxcx]133|100|Scoring: IMPps-ps-2♠-??[/hv] The options look to be X, 2NT, & 3♦. Given that the first 2 passed I suspect 2NT is more palatable but I still hate it with a stiff x♣, 3♦ is a weaker call in my opinion so I will settle for X and rebid 3♦ over 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=e&s=saxxha10xxdakjxxcx]133|100|Scoring: IMPps-ps-2♠-??[/hv] The options look to be X, 2NT, & 3♦. Given that the first 2 passed I suspect 2NT is more plattable but I still hate it with a stiff x♣, 3♦ is a weaker call in my opinion so I will settle for X and rebid 3♦ over 3♣. So, your plan is to double, and then bid a new suit in a misfit auction opposite a passed hand? Even if you are playing Lebensohl, and 3♣ shows some values, you're in real danger of getting severely overboard. (BTW, if you are playing Lebensohl, what's your plan over 2NT?) I think that the immediate 2NT overcall is a hell of a lot better than X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 I would double since the hand looks suit oriented and I feel anything else risks missing hearts too much. Richard is right bidding 3♦ next is an overbid, but only a small one so I feel the advantages to double still outweigh the disadvantages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Yeah X and 3D. Richard, I think if you double and partner bids 3C showing values, a 3D bid doesn't show 18+ or whatever like usual. There are many 2452 15 counts or whatever that I would X planning to bid 3C over leb, but bidding 3D over 3C. It's definitely an overbid over a 2N leb bid from partner though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 I guess I am showing my age, but I would just overcall 3♦. 3♦ is far from a weak action. If it is an underbid, it is a slight underbid. Double has the advantage of getting hearts into the picture, but at a cost of having to bid 3♦ if partner bids 3♣. And if partner bids 2NT Lebensohl, are you really going to bid 3♣ when partner is likely to pass? 3♦ over 2NT is a significant overbid. 3♦ is my choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 OMG, I am a senior too and bid 3♦. How likely is it that partner will bid anything but clubs? 20%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 The appeal of dble is to try and bring H into the window, the downside we have no C and might be making a problem. If we choose to o/c 2NT I doubt we are going to ever harm our chances of finding a H fit. The over call in D does not rule out H either but could place partner in a bad way should they have Jxxx in H and 3D where trying for a NT game would be a preference. I feel the 2NT over-call gives you the most room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 OMG, I am a senior too and bid 3♦. How likely is it that partner will bid anything but clubs? 20%? The combination of all bids but clubs? Over 50% I bet. Remember if he has hearts with longer clubs, or a spade stopper with clubs, there is a good chance he won't bid clubs. Also remember if he responds 3♣ we have enough to bid 3♦ anyway due to lebensohl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I agree with Josh, the chance that partner is weak with clubs without hearts is well below 50%. On other hands we should be ok after doubling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Double for me, planning to rebid 3♦ over 2NT (leb) or 3♣. 3♦ is of course an overbid over 2NT. But there's so huge an upside to the double compared to overcalling 3♦ that it's clearly worth it IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 3D. If you play ELC, you have a easy t/o, since I dont play ELC, 3D it is. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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