rduran1216 Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 of course it depends on what system you're playing. I similarly hate Steps over 2C. It wrong sides the contract more than it helps. With 2/1, I play 2D promises a control, while 2H is no aces or kings. I think this is optimal. You still have time to explore with the knowledge that you have at least a control from your partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Blackshoe i do not know if 4n/t has a system name,but it was xplained to me long time ago,and has come into operation lots of times,depends how much bridge one plays-but one has to be ready at all times,once explained to partners the bid stands out a mileIf I were you, I'd play as much high stake rubber as possible...you have found that an opening 4N asking for Aces comes up 'lots of times'????????? I have played 4N as asking for specific Aces for the past 30 years.... indeed, I think that in this part of the world, that meaning would be default expert standard....I have never seen it arise...ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate22 Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 well heres a hand today board 16 relaxed bridge with an advanced player,no names no pack drill.you hold KQ109652--AKQ5--5--A nice hand this is in North hand east dealer pass--- pass--- pass---your bid????????????? North bids 4 spades do you agree?????????????/ or hows about 2cl or 4n/tone would be playing 2d auto if you open 2cl if you open 4n/t response would be 5 sp-now what is your bid over 5 spades and why???if ply mod norman over 2cl--response would be 2sp=Ace spades only-- now what is your bid??????????? ply auto 2cl-2d(auto) ??????? 4 spades??????????????? then its pass allround Pards hand A---J1093--9873---j1075 I rest my case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 I rest my case One swallow does not make a summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 I rest my case One swallow does not make a summer. Don't you mean LOL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 well heres a hand today board 16 relaxed bridge with an advanced player,no names no pack drill.you hold KQ109652--AKQ5--5--A nice hand this is in North hand east dealer pass--- pass--- pass---your bid????????????? North bids 4 spades do you agree?????????????/ or hows about 2cl or 4n/tone would be playing 2d auto if you open 2cl if you open 4n/t response would be 5 sp-now what is your bid over 5 spades and why???if ply mod norman over 2cl--response would be 2sp=Ace spades only-- now what is your bid??????????? ply auto 2cl-2d(auto) ??????? 4 spades??????????????? then its pass allround Pards hand A---J1093--9873---j1075 I rest my case If you can't get to a slam on these cards regardless of your method, you are not trying too hard. 4♠ in fourth seat? On a 2 loser hand? You have got to be kidding. It is actually not difficult to construct a zero count that partner might have on which 6♥ is a claim. For example: --- T9876542 xxx xxx. I think we can establish the spade suit without too much difficulty. More realistic would be making 6♠ or 6♥, depending on partner's shape, if partner has a pointed suit ace and nothing else other than some length in one of the majors (3+ spades (2 in a pinch) or 5+ hearts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 In my system, it would be 2C 2D2S 3NT4C(keycard gerber) 4D6S pass I dont see any need to jump to 4S with a 2 loser hand, as mentioned previously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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