dickiegera Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=s9xhaq10xxdxxcajxx&s=saq10xxhxxdqjxxcqx]133|200|Scoring: MPShould N open this hand 3rd seat? If so what is his rebid after a 1♠ bid by S?Our bidding lead to a disaster. 1♥ 1♠ 2♣ 2♦ 2♠ 3♠ 2♦ was 4th suit forcing. Result was -200Thank you [/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=s9xhaq10xxdxxcajxx&s=saq10xxhxxdqjxxcqx]133|200|Scoring: MPShould N open this hand 3rd seat? If so what is his rebid after a 1♠ bid by S?Our bidding lead to a disaster. 1♥ 1♠ 2♣ 2♦ 2♠ 3♠ 2♦ was 4th suit forcing. Result was -200Thank you [/hv] Hey you will get posters on here that think South should open in 1st seat and since he didn't North should pass or bid 2♥ (oops didn't look at the colors but assuming no unfav) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 1♥ was normal, as was 2♣. A slightly odd rebid of 1NT instead of 2♣ was possible, but 2♣ is better IMO. Don't understand 2♦, having passed the South hand (I would have opened 1♠) 2NT looks like the normal bid. Hey you will get posters on here that think South should open in 1st seat and since he didn't North should pass or bid 2♥ (oops didn't look at the colors but assuming no unfav)This is just a lot of nonsense isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 If I had perpetrated 1S in first seat, we would end in 2NT, and I don't know whether, on this layout that would be a better result. I know my partner would have opened 1S, but she never gets older. I get more conservative in my old age. 1S-1NT2D-2NT(If opener is accepting game, will bid 3H enroute with 3.)P In third seat, pass (Pearson) seems silly, but maybe is right. 2H is perhaps resulting but certainly reasonable. 1H has a rebid, but led to an ugly situation that I don't know how to get out of. So bashing a 1H opening is resulting, too. After arguing with myself (again), I guess I like the 1S opening better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Agree with 655321. 1♥ opening is standout in any seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 1♥ was normal, as was 2♣. A slightly odd rebid of 1NT instead of 2♣ was possible, but 2♣ is better IMO. Don't understand 2♦, having passed the South hand (I would have opened 1♠) 2NT looks like the normal bid. Hey you will get posters on here that think South should open in 1st seat and since he didn't North should pass or bid 2♥ (oops didn't look at the colors but assuming no unfav)This is just a lot of nonsense isn't it? Hardly, the best player I ever played with insisted in 1st and 2nd seat we open ANY 11 point hand. Of course this required a great deal of discipline by both players but I found it to be a playable method. I never opened in 3rd seat unless I had expectations of a positive result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woefuwabit Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 If you open light in third seat, you'll have to convince partner not to invite to game. Easiest way to do that is to pass the 1♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 If you open light in third seat, you'll have to convince partner not to invite to game. Easiest way to do that is to pass the 1♠That will convince partner of something, all right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 If you open light in third seat, you'll have to convince partner not to invite to game. Easiest way to do that is to pass the 1♠That will convince partner of something, all right. pretty sure 1♠ isn't forcing there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Hi, Most would open this hand in 1st / 2ns seat, so sure this is a 1H opening.Compare the North hand with the South hand, you should open theSouth hand in 3rd, but it is depatable, if you should open in 1st / 2nd seat.After 1S, the 2C rebid is also clear cut. 2D is ok, since you are a passed hand, 2D should even be ok for playersfrom N/A.2S on the other hand is ???, sry, but unless you always raise with 3 cardsupport, 2S should promise 3 card support, make the default rebid - 2H.Responder will pass. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 I'd have opened both hands and would have got to 2NT anyway. But pass from S is certainly possible in fact I think I'd pass if my long suit weren't spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I agree with the rabbit -- to pass partner's 1♠ since he is a passed hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=s9xhaq10xxdxxcajxx&s=saq10xxhxxdqjxxcqx]133|200|Scoring: MPShould N open this hand 3rd seat? If so what is his rebid after a 1♠ bid by S?Our bidding lead to a disaster. 1♥ 1♠ 2♣ 2♦ 2♠ 3♠ 2♦ was 4th suit forcing. Result was -200Thank you [/hv] 1s=1nt2d=2nt.....live with it. OTOH if you are going to play a style where you pass with south hand then......just pass 2s. 2d rebid told partner your story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 well I guess we know who plays flannery. those who don't might doubt the brilliance of playing the 4-2 spade fit, losing the race to nt, or just plain keeping the auction open in case partner is expecting his 1/1 to allow him another bid. This was a reply to those who would pass after p p 1H p 1s p. then Mike777 came in with a definite "yep". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 If you open light in third seat, you'll have to convince partner not to invite to game. Easiest way to do that is to pass the 1♠ Passing 1♠ and potentially leaving pard in a 42 fit is extremely bad, IMHO. The only bad bid on the this hand was the 2♠ response to 4SF with two card support. .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 If you open light in third seat, you'll have to convince partner not to invite to game. Easiest way to do that is to pass the 1♠ Passing 1♠ and potentially leaving pard in a 42 fit is extremely bad, IMHO. The only bad bid on the this hand was the 2♠ response to 4SF with two card support. .. neilkaz .. I agree passing 1s is bad. I strongly disagree, I think this auction denies 3s very very often and given third seat shows a mini hand with 2s very very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Passing 1♠ and potentially leaving pard in a 42 fit is extremely bad, IMHO.Yes, agree with this. The only bad bid on the this hand was the 2♠ response to 4SF with two card support.Disagree, I think 2♠ is the right bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerline Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 1♥ in all seats and vulnerabilities. I don't agree with 2♠. When nothing more to say after 4SF, make the cheapest lie: 2♥ (the hearts are decent). Sequences given by other posters seem reasonable as well. The bidding should end in 2NT (without a fit and with a combined 22hcp). Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woefuwabit Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Personally, I don't see a problem with playing a 4-2 fit at the 1 level. It should be a fairly comfortable spot compared to the potential 2NT or 3M with 21 points, assuming your opponents even allow you to play there. Not a good place for weak declarers to be in though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 So some open light to find a 4-2 fit at the one-level? Amazing stuff. I belong to the school that 2 Spade shows 3 spades or at least Hx if this is the smallest lie. I had bid 2 HEart and passed 2 NT. No problem at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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