Echognome Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sahj6daq9532cakj5]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♦ - (1♥) - P - (P);?[/hv] What's the gameplan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantumcat Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Maybe double, then if pard bids a spade, bid 2♦ to say I was just checking if you had a trap pass. He won't say 2♠ or else he would have been good enough to bid 1♠ the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Double and then clubs over spades. When partner bids diamonds I'll raise that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sahj6daq9532cakj5]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♦ - (1♥) - P - (P);?[/hv] What's the gameplan? WHACK!!! to be followed by a ♣ bid over 1 or 2♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sahj6daq9532cakj5]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♦ - (1♥) - P - (P);?[/hv] What's the gameplan? 1) I will start with x2) my best guess is pard will pull and i will rebid something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I do not dream of a penalty pass from partner, but my hand is too strong for 2 club and has the wrong shape for 3 of a minor. So I join the X then clubs crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 yep, double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Maybe you should post low level decisions in the B/I forum. :) I would double, planning to bid clubs next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Double. We can still have game on if partner had the awkward hand that had no spades or a heart stopper. In that case the opponents will have some spades but then we must have a fit or two in the minors. With this decent hand it'd be unlucky if this balances the opponents to a making 4♠ but RHO's silence over his partner's 1♥ should preclude that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Does double followed by 2♣ show extra values, or might it just be a 2254/2155 13-count, catering for partner's penalty pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Does double followed by 2♣ show extra values, or might it just be a 2254/2155 13-count, catering for partner's penalty pass? We had a similar thread on this subject a few years ago. I thought it showed an offshape minimum double, but I was outvoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I think it shows extra strength, you just live with your offshape doubles at the 1 level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Double. We can still have game on if partner had the awkward hand that had no spades or a heart stopper. In that case the opponents will have some spades but then we must have a fit or two in the minors. With this decent hand it'd be unlucky if this balances the opponents to a making 4♠ but RHO's silence over his partner's 1♥ should preclude that.excellent, unless a neg double would have denied spades--in which case game is remote. However, RHO's silence does increase the possibility of a trap by partner.Double is still the answer. Remembering another tread, could partner have J-ninth of spades and out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Does double followed by 2♣ show extra values, or might it just be a 2254/2155 13-count, catering for partner's penalty pass? We had a similar thread on this subject a few years ago. I thought it showed an offshape minimum double, but I was outvoted. Who makes offshape takeout doubles at the 1 level on minimum hands? 1♦ 1♥ p p you are doubling on a minimum 1264?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sahj6daq9532cakj5]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♦ - (1♥) - P - (P);?What's the gameplan?[/hv] _X then, over 1♠, 2♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Who makes offshape takeout doubles at the 1 level on minimum hands? 1♦ 1♥ p p you are doubling on a minimum 1264?! I think the pattern might have been 5422 with a 2♣ overcall on your left. The question was "does pulling 2♦ to 2♥ implies extras?". I suppose you could switch the suits to 2542 (1♠ overcall), or 2254, or even 4225. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 IMO you have to leave partner in your doubleton if you double on those and he bids it, but ok now I understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I'd just bid 2♣ here. If partner has a trap pass then opponents have a huge spade fit, and they will likely find it if I double. I'm much more concerned that partner has a bad hand with a lot of spades and will jump opposite my double (say JTxxxx of spades and out, which might make game opposite a good 4144 hand but is awful opposite my real hand). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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