jdaming Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Bidding has gone:1♥ - DBL- RDBL- Pass2♣ - Pass - ??? Playing with a brand new partner (ADV level) what would you expect the meaning of 2♦, 2♥, and 3♥ to be? Forcing or not? Feel free to comment on any other interesting/non-natural bids here! What is your favorite system with regular partnership? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Bidding has gone:1♥ - DBL- RDBL- Pass2♣ - Pass - ??? Playing with a brand new partner (ADV level) what would you expect the meaning of 2♦, 2♥, and 3♥ to be? Forcing or not? Feel free to comment on any other interesting/non-natural bids here! What is your favorite system with regular partnership? Why bid 2♣. Give the opponents an opportunity to put their heads on the chopping block where you or your partner get a chance to take a whack. This assumes of course that the opponents are not playing "must save" by the bidder after the XX and where pass means "I want to play this XX" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 2♦ is forcing, like an uncontested 1♥-2♦ in Standard American.2♥ is non-forcing and shows preference.3♥ ought to be a non-forcing 3-card limit raise, but it's probably treated as forcing by most people. Why bid 2♣. Give the opponents an opportunity to put their heads on the chopping block where you or your partner get a chance to take a whack.Are you seriously suggesting that there is no hand on which opener should bid 2♣? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 2♦ is forcing, like an uncontested 1♥-2♦ in Standard American.2♥ is non-forcing and shows preference.3♥ ought to be a non-forcing 3-card limit raise, but it's probably treated as forcing by most people. Why bid 2♣. Give the opponents an opportunity to put their heads on the chopping block where you or your partner get a chance to take a whack.Are you seriously suggesting that there is no hand on which opener should bid 2♣? No I am sure I will eventually run across one but in most cases I think pass should be the first option. Again that assumes XX does not guarantee 3 card ♥ support but is instead meant as "this is our hand" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 2♦ is forcing, like an uncontested 1♥-2♦ in Standard American.2♥ is non-forcing and shows preference.3♥ ought to be a non-forcing 3-card limit raise, but it's probably treated as forcing by most people. Why bid 2♣. Give the opponents an opportunity to put their heads on the chopping block where you or your partner get a chance to take a whack.Are you seriously suggesting that there is no hand on which opener should bid 2♣? No I am sure I will eventually run across one but in most cases I think pass should be the first option. Again that assumes XX does not guarantee 3 card ♥ support but is instead meant as "this is our hand" x KQJxx xx KQJxx seems like a good example, although even this is a bit extreme. Something like x AQxxxx Qx KJxx is a possibility. I suppose the best example would be something like xx Jxxxx x AKQJx B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 good examples by AK the Volcano. Our agreement is simple --When xx denies fit and establishes it is our hand, getting in the way of the redoubler's follow-up action with a rebid shows a poor hand for defense and extra distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Before going into responder's second calls, hope you both would agree that 2C says "I don't want to defend a low level contract". What one might describe as normal opening hands, would Pass instead of bidding 2C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Before going into responder's second calls, hope you both would agree that 2C says "I don't want to defend a low level contract". What one might describe as normal opening hands, would Pass instead of bidding 2C. :rolleyes: not entirely...might have been willing to defend a low-level club contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I think ther most common approach here is that XX forces till a penalty double or 2 NT. There is no exception just because partner did not pass. With my standard partner I play that new suits are forcing, heart raises invitational, club raises forcing. (We cannot have a forcing and a non forcing raise below 3 NT). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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