benlessard Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Im trying to find 4 cards transfers ideas on the web and so far i didnt find too much. Any ideas ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 These are the 2 I know of:- Heeman- Scandinavian (or Scanian, I'm not sure) NT structure I'd suggest googling ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahonga Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 There's a version of the Scanian NT system in Zebra on Dan Neill's website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 There's a link to Heeman from Free's blog (thanks, Free). The second method mentioned by Free is described in the booklet "Notrump bidding - the Scanian Way". A long time ago there was an article in IPBM by Brian Callaghan about Trappit, another system of 4-card transfers. I don't think that's available anywhere on the web. Talking of Heeman, it uses: 1NT-2H as 5+ spades to play, or 4 spades invitational+and 1NT-2C;2D-2H as 5+ spades invitational+(and similarly for hearts) I can't see any reason to do that rather than play 1NT-2H as 5+ spades any strengthand 1NT-2C;2D-2H as 4 spades invitational+ I think that the latter approach makes life simpler if they intervene over the direct transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Talking of Heeman, it uses: 1NT-2H as 5+ spades to play, or 4 spades invitational+and 1NT-2C;2D-2H as 5+ spades invitational+(and similarly for hearts) I can't see any reason to do that rather than play 1NT-2H as 5+ spades any strengthand 1NT-2C;2D-2H as 4 spades invitational+ I think that the latter approach makes life simpler if they intervene over the direct transfer. I think it's because of simplicity and symmetry in the structure, which makes it very easy to remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 With Heeman you can stop in 2♠ if responder has an invitational hand with 5+ spades. And you even get opener to declare in those cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 With Heeman you can stop in 2♠ if responder has an invitational hand with 5+ spades. And you even get opener to declare in those cases. Actually you can't! 2♥ is a puppet to 2♠ and opener isn't supposed to do anything else, even with maximum and fit! Ofcourse it's an obvious modification :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Im mostly looking for systems where 2NT after a transfer is forcing to help make the difference between long M+m or 4M+long m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Im mostly looking for systems where 2NT after a transfer is forcing to help make the difference between long M+m or 4M+long m. I assume you have looked at Keri? A transfer followed by 2NT is GF and shows a 4 card minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucrman Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Here is a summary of what I like to play over our 1NT opening. After bidding Stayman 2C, I use rebid of 2NT to show Cs and a rebid of 3C to show Ds. Rebids after the 2NT and 3C bids show short suits, forcing. Also I use the 2D transfer to show 4 or 5 Hs invitational or 4-4 in the majors, and the 2H transfer to show 4 Ss invitational. 2S asks whether min or max. I have the complete system in Word. The summary is below. I divided it into weak hands, invitational hands, game-forcing hands, and slam hands. WEAK HANDS one-suitersbid 2D to transfer to 2Hbid 2H to transfer to 2Sbid 2NT to transfer to 3C bid 2NT to play 3D two suitersboth majors - bid 2C followed by 2H (with longer Ss, may instead bid 2H to transfer to 2S)both minors - bid 2S and bid the lower 5-card minormajor, longer minor - bid 2C and transfer to the minor unless major fit (2NT transfers to 3C and 3C transfers to 3D) INVITATIONAL HANDS one-suiterswith 4 Hs or 5 Hs, bid 2D followed by 2S with 4 Ss bid 2H followed by 2NT with 5 Ss bid 2C followed by 2Swith a 6+ major, transfer (2D/2H) and raise to 3H/3Swith a 6+ minor, bid 3m two suiterswith 4-4 in the majors bid 2D followed by 2NTwith 5-5 in the majors bid 2C followed by 3D if no fit is foundwith 5 Ss and another 4+-card suit, bid 2C followed by 2Swith 5 Hs and 4 Ss, bid 2H followed by 3Hwith 5-4 or 4-5 in the minors bid 2S. Then after 2NT bid 3C or 3D, or after 3C or 3D, bid 3NT with 2-2 in the majors or bid 3H/3S which shows 3 cards in the other major and a singleton in the major. with 5-5 in the minors, bid 3H or with 3 cards in a major, bid 2S followed by bidding the void (3H/3S)with 4 Hs and a longer minor, bid 2C and signoff in the minor (2NT or 3C) if no heart fit is found, or bid 2D followed by 2Swith 4 Ss and a longer minor, bid 2C and signoff in the minor (2NT or 3C) if no spade fit is found, or bid 2H followed by 2NT GAME FORCING HANDS with 4 Hs or 4 Ss with a singleton/void in the other major, bid 2NT followed by 3 in the short majorwith 4 Hs, bid 2C followed by 3NTwith 4 Ss, bid 2C followed by 3D over a 2H response or by 3NT over a 2D response one-suiterswith 5 Hs or 5 Ss, transfer to the major (2D/2H) and then bid 3NT with a somewhat balanced handwith 6+ Hs or 6+ Ss, bid 4D or 4Hwith 6+ Cs, bid 2C followed by 2NT, etcwith 6+ Ds, bid 2C followed by 3C, etc. two suiterswith 4 Hs and 4 Ss, bid 2C followed by 3NT if no fit is found with 5 Hs and 5 Ss, bid 2C followed by 3D if an immediate fit is not foundwith 5-4 or 4-5 in the majors, bid 2C followed by 3 of the 4-card suit if no immediate fit is foundwith 4-6 in the majors, bid 2C and over a 2D response bid 4M.with 4 Hs or 4 Ss with a longer minor, bid 2C, etc.with 5 Hs or 5 Ss and a 4- or 5-card minor, bid 2D/2H followed by 3C/3Dwith 5-4 or 4-5 in the minors, bid 2S followed by 3 of the singleton major with 3-1-5-4 or 3-1-4-5, or bid 2NT followed by 3NT with 2-2-5-4with 5-5 in the minors, bid 3H or 3S, or with 3 cards in a major, bid 2S followed by bidding the void (3H/3S)with 5 Hs/Ss and 6 Cs/Ds, bid 2C followed by a transfer to the minor (2NT/3C), followed by 4H/4S SLAM INVITATIONAL HANDS one-suiterswith 4 Hs or 4 Ss, bid 2C and if a fit is found bid 4D, if no fit is found bid 4NTwith 5 Hs or 5 Ss, bid 2D/2H and then bid 4NT with a somewhat balanced handwith 6 Hs or 6 Ss, bid 2D/2H, and then bid 4Ms with no singleton or void or jump to the singleton or voidwith 6 Cs or 6 Ds, bid 2C, then transfer to the minor (2NT = Cs, 3C = Ds), then bid appropriatelywith a flat hand bid 4NT (bid slam unless very minimum) or else bid 2S and bid 6NT over a 3m response two suiterswith 4-4 in the majors, bid 2C and if a fit is found bid 4D, if no fit is found bid 4NTwith 5-4 in the majors, bid 2C followed by 3 of the 4-card suit if no immediate fit is foundwith 5 Hs and 5 Ss, bid 2C followed by 4m (singleton/void) over 2D or followed by 3Mo over 2H/2Swith 5 Hs or 5 Ss and a 4- or 5-card minor, bid 2D/2H followed by 3C/3Dwith 5-4 or 4-5 in the minors, bid 2S followed by 3 of the singleton major with 3-1-5-4, or bid 2NT followed by 4NT with 2-2-5-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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