DNE?

[jmcw]

If 1NT shows less than and opener with 5/4 either way

then 2NT shows at least 5/5

Both are limited to about 11/12 points.

 

I'm not buying the 'oops' arguement my partner is way too good for that. He's making some sort of forward going bid my best guess is 5-4-0-4 and I'm banking on a max. AJT9x AT9x - QJTx.

[kayin801]

"Expert": Could partner have the minors 5/5 and no good way to show it? If your agreement here is that 2NT directly would show the two lowest unbid (majors) then partner with both minors but the desire to interfere is improvising (if your partner likes to do that). Though why you'd want to show 5/5 in the minors on this auction is beyond me.

 

On that same line of thought, and more likely, if the opps play a short club, maybe he has hearts and clubs, 5-5, and again no good way to show it, and the heart suit is too crappy to overcall hearts. 1D tends to show SOME length here but the clubs could be 2 or 3 cards and partner has something like Ax, Jxxxx, x, KQJxx (bad example hand, but you get the idea) then I think partner is improvising.

 

I think I'd lose my partner if I did this too often, but just saying some people might.

 

Intermediate: Either partner forgot 1NT isn't strong or partner thinks 1NT is still strong and is super-accepting your club xfer (if you play it)

[bid_em_up]

I'm still stuck at DNE.

Does Not Exist

 

(I think, although it stumped me for quite sometime also, so it could be wrong).

[Fluffy]

snadwich NT is so standard around here that I would always think or it showing extra shape natural for an expert.

 

 

for intermediate I am passing right now.

[Finch]

It's not so much partner's standard, perhaps maybe more partner's knowledge of the laws that's relevant.

 

There seem to be 3 possibilities

 

1. Our agreement is that 1NT shows the 2 unbid suits, but partner has a natural, strong NT bid.

 

He heard me alert 1NT, then bid 2S. 2S is a natural weak take-out, I assume (no reason to play it with any other meaning). Anyone who understands the UI law knows that it's pointless to bid 2NT now, because even if we get to game we're going to get adjusted against.

 

So with an educated partner this auction doesn't isn't; with an ignorant (or unethical) partner, it doesn't really matter, because the TD is going to be at the table fairly soon.

 

2. We've forgotten that we agreed to scrap the sandwich NT. Partner's 1NT was systemically natural all along. Now the auction makes some sense, partner should be showing a spade fit and a maximum, but seriously suggesting playing in NT to keep him as declarer. I can't remember what my hand was now, but I assume I'm either going ot pass, bid 3NT, 3S, 4S or make some sort of game try.

 

3. Partner has a genuine sandwich NT. Now I'm making this up, but on the assumption that all natural-sounding bids are natural, I suppose he's got a maximum with something in their suits.

[campboy]

I'm going to go along with "partner must have forgotten". I can't imagine a hand that can bid again after 2♠ that wouldn't double or bid 2NT (or something similar) last time. If I'm right I shall be annoyed since partner must have twisted my arm in order to get me to play the wretched convention in the first place :rolleyes: