gwnn Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 JxxJxxxAQxxxx we deal at game all mp's p-2♥*-2♠-p? 2♥ is hearts and a minor, at least 5-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 3♠? QJx xxxx x AJxxx might be a different story of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Do the hand and the question relate to each other? :rolleyes: Josh only dared answer the question mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 I wouldn't call 3H insane, just inferior. Prefer 3S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 yes 3 ♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 3♠? QJx xxxx x AJxxx might be a different story of course. ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 I see 3 choices, 3S, 4S, 3H. 4S a bit aggressive and lacks a trump. 3H is too much with such soft C and lack of a 4th trump. 3S is all I really think I am worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 A bit. 3♠ seems the best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Not qualified to answer, 3♠ 2nd choice:Not qualified to answer, 3♥ What did those men in white coats tell you? Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 The answer to the bridge question is 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 am i insane Yes. On the hand I feel close between 3♥ and 3♠. I feel inclined towards 3♥ but my 2♠ overcalls are sounder than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 3♣ is an option. Fit-bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Is pass an option? Matchpoints, lousy spades (RHO has 4 over partner), 2 heart losers, maybe club losers, you may not be able to ruff diamonds at all if they switch to trumps, no entries to my clubs. I guess it depends on what your requirements are to overcall the open, but my partners' hands may not be strong. KQxxx, xx, QJxx, Ax is consistent with partner's and RHO's bidding, and 3 is going off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 we deal at game all mp's: Jxx Jxxx A Qxxxxp-2♥*-2♠-p?2♥ is hearts and a minor, at least 5-4.IMO 3♥ = 10 -- Raise to 3♠+ with defence: descriptive and co-operative :)3♠ = 8 -- Pre-emptive but understates the offensive and defensive potential :huh: 4♠ = 6 -- more pre-emptive but too much defence, too few spades and insufficient power :(3♣ = 5 -- Kenrexford's passed-hand fit non-jump. An objection to this bid is that it allows sophisticated opponents to discover their minor (mis)fit at a low level. A sensible treatment for your RHO is that he doubles your 3♣ as pass or correct :) _P = 3 -- Timorous. Could be right but such lack of faith undermines partner's confidence ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Yes, you are insane. However that doesn't relate to the question too much, I'll bid 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 3♣ is an option. Fit-bid.Fit bid ? ...as in fit-showing-jump (FSJ)? ... 3♣ is not a jump here. [ Jdonn's Advancer example hand might be worth a 4C! FSJ ]. Or are you saying, " the only reason for a passed hand to bid a new suit ( non-jump ) is that it also shows 'tolerance' for partner's suit ." ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 3♠ for me...support with support and I don't see this as quite good enough for 3♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 3♣ is an option. Fit-bid.Fit bid ? ...as in fit-showing-jump (FSJ)? ... 3♣ is not a jump here. [ Jdonn's Advancer example hand might be worth a 4C! FSJ ]. Or are you saying, " the only reason for a passed hand to bid a new suit ( non-jump ) is that it also shows 'tolerance' for partner's suit ." ?? As a passed hand, bidding 3♣ here should show at least tolerence for partner's suit, so I assume this is what he is talking about here... I don't think it's anywhere near standard to treat 3♣ as a "Fit"-Non-Jump, however I do believe that it should be a "Tolerance"-Non-Jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Strange comments. Of course, 3♣ is not a "jit-showing jump," as it is not a jump. That's why I did not call it a "fit-showing jump" but rather a "fit bid." I also did not say it was the best option. Just that it was an option. Of course, to be an option, it must be discussed, at least as a meta-agreement. I would have this meta-agreement, personally, at least in the sense of forcing one round. Tolerance or better; ability to handle a raise of clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Can't judge the sanity part. I'd make a simple raise to 3♠. My values are a little too soft for a strong raise (3♥) and too scattered for a fit-non-jump (3♣). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 As a passed hand, bidding 3♣ here should show at least tolerence for partner's suit, ... Why? Partner can have a decent hand without great spades when he bids 2♠ over 2♥ so there could be ample values for game even though you couldn't open and/or 2♠ may be a terrible spot. Eg QJ10xx Kxx Axx Ax opposite x xxx Kxx KQxxxx and both hands could be better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 OK the envelope please Yes, I am insane! I passed! Partner justified my pessimism with some very bad declarer play (but at the time of my decision I was not aware of the fact that his declarer play is below club average), there was 1 620, 4 +140s 2 -100s (in 4S) along our +110 . I thought it was a hand too flat with bad honor placement. After the fact I started wondering whether or not I was insane. Thanks for answering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Congratulations on getting the best score possible with this partner. :D Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yahooya Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 3♠ of couse.. 3♥ is too strong! Never confuse your partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Congratulations on getting the best score possible with this partner. ;) Rik and a near perfect score on the other question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.