OleBerg Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=s8h108752dakqca953]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Pass - (1♣)* - ??? 1♣ = 2+♣'s or any 18+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 yeah 1♥, if I was to open I might considered opening 1♣. EDIT: won't open 1♣ sicne I have no rebid over 1♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Clear 1♥ for me; also true if opening. If partner raises with ♥xxx, so what? We have our values elsewhere. With a weaker hand maybe pass, on the idea that I don't really want partner to lead a heart. But not with this much meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 How is this a bidding problem, WOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 *******BRIDGE IS A VERY EASY GAME!********* WHEN YOU HAVE A 5 CARD MAJOR AND A SOLID OPENING HAND AND CAN BID AT THE ONE LEVEL DO SO! YOU WILL FIND YOUR GAMES, AND COMPETE EFFECTIVELY TO YOUR PARTIALS. YOU ARE MAKING BRIDGE TOO HARD IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO HERE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 God created the natural calls. All the rest is the work of man. Including all these suit quality worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Agree with all the above. Why is this a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 May I raptor 1NT to get above their spades? Though it is backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyC Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 1H is obvious. Even opposite a passed partner we can still have the balance of the points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattieShoe Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I'm not an expert, but 1♥ isn't obvious to me at least... 1♥ indicates strong 5 card suit, does it not? My first instinct was pass or double, going to 1NT if partner bids spades. Then again, maybe that's why I'm not an expert.... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Well, it was a kind of sanity-check. The hand is from last night's "Jimmy Cayne Match" on BBO. Jimmy's partner (Star-player) passed. It was the penultimate board, and the team was leading with 35 imps, and the opponents had just misperformed (at no cost). Maybe the pass was to avoid a big swing? Or maybe it was amateur night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Yeah pass is right if youre up 35 with 2 boards to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 To me this is a pass. If I overcall 1♥, I can foresee that LHO will bid spades and will end up declaring a spade contract. Partner will be on lead and he will blow a trick in hearts. (.) If I don't overcall 1♥, LHO will play in spades and at least I didn't tell partner to make the wrong lead. Possible scenario's:- They could end up in 4♠ off 4 tricks in the minors. But after the heart lead, they pull trump and discard minor losers on the hearts, ending with an overtrick in a contract that was doomed from the start. One game swing away. - We push the opponents to 3♠ by competing in hearts. Without the overcall, they will play a peaceful 2♠. But when they are playing 3♠, we will give them the extra trick that they need on the opening lead. We might easily give up 140 here, whereas at the other table 2♠ is set a trick on a non heart lead. Half a game swing away. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 - We push the opponents to 3♠ by competing in hearts. Without the overcall, they will play a peaceful 2♠. But when they are playing 3♠, we will give them the extra trick that they need on the opening lead. We might easily give up 140 here, whereas at the other table 2♠ is set a trick on a non heart lead. Half a game swing away. It seems pessimistic to expect a heart lead to cost two tricks. Can you show us the sort of layout you have in mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 :lol: at the passers here. I would overcall without the ♦Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 - We push the opponents to 3♠ by competing in hearts. Without the overcall, they will play a peaceful 2♠. But when they are playing 3♠, we will give them the extra trick that they need on the opening lead. We might easily give up 140 here, whereas at the other table 2♠ is set a trick on a non heart lead. Half a game swing away. It seems pessimistic to expect a heart lead to cost two tricks. Can you show us the sort of layout you have in mind?I agree that this is pessimistic by making partner lead the wrong suit, but it can easily happen. How about partner with ♥Kxxx? Dummy has AQxx, declarer has a void. Declarer takes the free finesse and can dump two diamond losers. With a non heart lead, we would have gotten ♦AKQ, ♣A and partner's trump tricks. Now, we get:♦A, ♣A and partner's trump tricks. A difference of two tricks. If partner has exactly two trump tricks, we get to the situation where they make 3♠ at our table and our team mates go down in 2♠ at the other table. Another situation:Partner has a singleton ♣. Without the overcall, he would have lead his singleton, for my ace, his ruff, a diamond to me and another ruff, a diamond to me and a third club ruff. Down one in 2♠ already, and I still have a top diamond. After the heart lead that I indicated, declarer wins, pulls trumps, partner gets 0 ruffs and a trick blown in the heart suit when partner leads away from his king: a difference of 4 tricks. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 My first instinct was pass or double, going to 1NT if partner bids spades. You can't double with this hand. If partner bids spades after you double, you will have to pass, since bidding 1NT would show a hand too strong for a 1NT overcall, i.e. 18-20 points or some such. So if you double, partner may play a spade contract in a 4-1 fit. Double shows at least three cards in each unbid suit, unless you have a hand strong enough for a bid in next round, i.e. 17+ points or such. So the choice is between 1♥ and pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 With + 35imps i might overcall 1D. If they reached 4S partner will know what to lead.It will probably stop them from bidding 3NT.If partner has values we will reach game. The drawback is playing a doubled X contract (5D mostly) IMO partner shouldnt fight to bid 3D or 4D over a S partial but will take the 5D insurance pretty often. Drawback of a H overcall.. Might get the wrong lead and they make 4S (going down at the other table).Might push them into 3Nt instead of 4S (going down at the other table) Drawback of pass. We can miss a gameThey might reach 3Nt. Im not sure i prefer 1D to pass but im sure 1D/pass are better than 1H (at +35 and 2 boards) Next time you have a state of match type of problems please post the score and how many boards to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 - We push the opponents to 3♠ by competing in hearts. Without the overcall, they will play a peaceful 2♠. But when they are playing 3♠, we will give them the extra trick that they need on the opening lead. We might easily give up 140 here, whereas at the other table 2♠ is set a trick on a non heart lead. Half a game swing away. It seems pessimistic to expect a heart lead to cost two tricks. Can you show us the sort of layout you have in mind?AKJxAKJxxxxxx opposite QxxxxxQxxxKQx a heart lead would cost 3 tricks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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