Ant590 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 1♣ -- 1♠2♣ -- 2♥ Non-forcing?Forcing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvage Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 This may depend on location (I am in Norway), but I would say in standard this is forcing. Personally I normally play it as non-forcing, but that is because I play a non-standard method where 2♦ by responder is a general game-force in this position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 1♣ -- 1♠2♣ -- 2♥ Non-forcing?Forcing? 3♣ invitational2♦ 1000% forcing2♥ 1000% forcing2♠ to play2NT highly invitational [i.e. you need a reason not to go] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 100 % forcing without opposing agreement. There are good reasons to play it as non forcing, but not without a discussion before you bid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Forcing is standard, I like to play it as NF with 2D art (like NF) though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Forcing is standard, I like to play it as NF with 2D art (like NF) though. Same. 2♦ on this sequence is known as Extended New Minor Forcing. It also applies with the minors reversed. 3♣ would then be artificial and forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 With discussion, "cheapest new suit" forcing ( and may be artificial), which in this case is 2♦!.... similar to NMF over a 1NT rebid.Thus, 2H here would be NF. It gets "stickier" when Opener's minor is Diam.1D - 1S2D - 2H! ( cheapest new suit forcing and may be artificial,whereas 3C would show a weak 4s/6+c ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 With discussion, "cheapest new suit" forcing ( and may be artificial), which in this case is 2♦!.... similar to NMF over a 1NT rebid.Thus, 2H here would be NF. It gets "stickier" when Opener's minor is Diam.1D - 1S2D - 2H! ( cheapest new suit forcing and may be artificial,whereas 3C would show a weak 4s/6+c ). Don't like this at all. There is no way to play in 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Oldfashioned standard is that 2♥ is forcing here. The normal treatment among Norwegian experts is 2♦ as a conventional forcing (inv+) bid, and 2♥ NF. (With some I play transfers here.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Many play reverse flannery with this type of hand. oneminor=2h=5s and 4h and less than invite. If so then this action becomes invitational and 2d can be game forcing and artificial. 1c/1d=2h=less than invite 5s and 4h.1c=1s=2c=2h=invite1c=1major=2c=2d=art. and game force. Note with a 4 or 5 card major and long diamonds and a weakish hand, you lose the d suit.(walsh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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