OleBerg Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=e&s=sa9hakda96ckqj987]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] (2♥) - 2♠ - (4♥) - ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 4NT RKC (hands with minors has to take-out double or guess a suit). We must be very close to some grand, 7♣ or 7N, if N is sane (were you N, btw Ole? :angry:). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 4NT RKC would be helpful. However, I play that as the minors. I might just bid 7♣, but it's probably worth offering a choice, in case partner has good spades and a singleton club. I bid 5NT, pick-a-slam, followed by 7♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 7C, I also play 4N as not RKC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I will bid a simple 6N. We may miss 7C but there is really no realistic way to reach it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 First reaction is 7NT, but I admit partner could have ♠Kxxxx and ♦KJx so 7♣ can be better. supporting spades is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 7C, I also play 4N as not RKC.I assume you pass then as N holding [hv=s=skqjxxxhxxdkqjxcx]133|100|[/hv] :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 7C, I also play 4N as not RKC.I assume you pass then as N holding [hv=s=skqjxxxhxxdkqjxcx]133|100|[/hv] :angry: And you, I assume, never miss a slam or overbid to a slam after opponents preempt to the 4-level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 7C, I also play 4N as not RKC.I assume you pass then as N holding [hv=s=skqjxxxhxxdkqjxcx]133|100|[/hv] :lol: And you, I assume, never miss a slam or overbid to a slam after opponents preempt to the 4-level? If I didn't do that I wouldn't be bidding enough :P But the 7 level deserves extra care and a 60% chance that partner has the ♣A is a marginal grand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 the 7 level deserves extra care and a 60% chance that partner has the ♣A is a marginal grand. Where did this figure of 60% come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 the 7 level deserves extra care and a 60% chance that partner has the ♣A is a marginal grand. Where did this figure of 60% come from? I snatched it out of the air as it flew by :lol: Otherwise it didn't seem to out of line for the bidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Why would Advancer need TWO ways to show the minors: DBL = Responsive ( showing the minors in this case); thus 4NT should be RKC for Sp... especially when it is needed. [You do play Responsive DBL thru 4H don't you ? ]. This is not the same as a 4H preempt where 4NT = minors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I'd expect 4NT to show 5-5 in the minors, and double to be more balanced and offer more defence - something like a 2254 or 2344 10-count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 It seems sensible, if not especially memorable, to play ... 5♥ 5♠-5NTas RKCB for spades. It's possible, in fact, that I already play that in one partnership, depending on how you interpret the phrase "in constructive auctions where we are already at the five level". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 It is hard to argue with someone who has won two world championships, but for me if I can't find out what I need to know then I settle for the practical and don't push for perfection. I would simply bid 6C over 4H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 But Winston, that's exactly the point: if you can't push for perfection you just take the percentage bid, from the information you have so far gathered. the question then is: does partner rate to have the ace of clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 If I had to guess I would shoot 7 for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 But Winston, that's exactly the point: if you can't push for perfection you just take the percentage bid, from the information you have so far gathered. the question then is: does partner rate to have the ace of clubs?The club Ace doesn't "seal the deal. And did anyone else notice that the 2H-4H bidders are red vs white and missing the AK of their trump suit? QJ10xxxxKQJAxx Q10xxxxQKQxAxx KQJxxxxxKQJxA Edit: I also bet that if this were posed as a problem of what to bid white versus red over two hearts holding: KQJxxx, void, KJxx, xxx it would be about 99% in favor of 2S with about 90% WTP. Edit: Many long years of experience has shown me that it is easier to get bullied into overbidding than underbidding in these situations - but your mileage may vary, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Does this work? Bid 6♥, exclusion. Then convert 6♠ to 6NT, pass 6NT, pass 7♣, and bid 7NT over 7♦. At worst, you'll be in 7NT opposite KQxxx x Qxxx Axx when 7♣ might have been better. I'd like to claim that I thought of this myself, but in fact Shireen (my other half) suggested it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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