MarkDean Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=s9854hq9dq6caqt96]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] 1♦ - (1♠) - Pass - (2♦)2♥ - (Pass) - 3♦ - (3♠)5♦ - (Pass) - ? Do you agree with the first two rounds?What now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Dealer: North Vul: Both Scoring: MP ♠ 9854 ♥ Q9 ♦ Q6 ♣ AQT96 1♦ - (1♠) - Pass - (2♦)2♥ - (Pass) - 3♦ - (3♠)5♦ - (Pass) - ? Do you agree with the first two rounds?What now? I bid 6♦ as I have 4 useful cards partner has no right to expect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Agree with the 6♦, but don't like the initial pass. 2♣ is simple and would definitely be my bid. I play it as non forcing, but even if it is forcing, I don't mind partner rebidding 2♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 I'd have bid 2♣ over 1♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 I disagree with pass. I disagree with 3♦ - partner is typically 6-4 for his bidding, and we have a great hand for that. I would bid 4♦. Now I would like to abstain, but I am closer to a grand try with 6♣ than to passing 5♦ - which goes to show that our previous bidding was too little. In fact, yes I would bid 6♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Hate the previous bidding. I have bid as if I have a yarborough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Our bidding so far is extremely bad. What has partner done to us, since we don't respect his bidding, not even his opening bid? Now we have a grand slam try. 6♣ to show the ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 There is no grand try to show both red Queens and the Ace of clubs. You can't have that. So, the only "grand try" is 7♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 6C is obvious if I'm so terrible that I have bid this way to start with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 What to do now? I have showed a hand with no tricks so far on every opportunity. This was wrong, but I have no idea how to recover. I think Arend, Justin et all deserve a lol for 6 Club. Yes the hand is worth a grand slam try. But how can you interprete a bid from someone as a GSF who had showed a yarb so far at every opportunity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 What to do now? I have showed a hand with no tricks so far on every opportunity. This was wrong, but I have no idea how to recover. I think Arend, Justin et all deserve a lol for 6 Club. Yes the hand is worth a grand slam try. But how can you interprete a bid from someone as a GSF who had showed a yarb so far at every opportunity? In fairness, Justin came close to an explanation. The "terrible" comment suggests that 6♣ would be a partnership-specific treatment, showing first-round control of clubs, two other cards, and a complete admission of being an idiot in the prior auction. If that would be so understood, from past experience, then the call is perfect. Others hinted at that implicit agreement, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 What to do now? I have showed a hand with no tricks so far on every opportunity. This was wrong, but I have no idea how to recover. I think Arend, Justin et all deserve a lol for 6 Club. Yes the hand is worth a grand slam try. But how can you interprete a bid from someone as a GSF who had showed a yarb so far at every opportunity? In fairness, Justin came close to an explanation. The "terrible" comment suggests that 6♣ would be a partnership-specific treatment, showing first-round control of clubs, two other cards, and a complete admission of being an idiot in the prior auction. If that would be so understood, from past experience, then the call is perfect. Others hinted at that implicit agreement, as well. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Hi, No, I ont agree with your first two rounds, I would have bid 2C.I dont care, if you play it as forcing / nonforcing, I have both.I dont agree with 3D as well, this is basically only a weak preference,3D showes nothing. Now after I showed nothing, because I liked it to play hide and seekwith partner I have to guess, if I have to bid 6D or not.I certainly have the values for the bid, even the values to try for seven,but it is a pure guess, if they have two cashing tricks or not. I would pass. Maybe passing now is of similar quality as my bidding the roundsbefore, that would mean I am consistent.In the end, if I did bid the two rounds as I did, why should may IQ suddenly have gone through the sky? With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattieShoe Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 If partner opened 1♦, then he has less than what, 22 points? HCP aren't there at least. I don't have a stopper in opponents suit... I'd expect partner to have a long suit but be shy on points, but might as well play 5 if you're going to play 4, so preempt opponents with 5♦. They could have AK♠ right off the top. I'd pass. But then again, I'm a scaredy cat with borderline stuff like this. Edit: missed a Q when I looked at the hand initially. Thought there was only 8HCP. Couldn't figure out why everybody was recommending 2♣ with that hand, but makes sense with that extra queen. :-) I'd have never thought of 6♣ but that sounds like a good bid given the two extra points :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 as JLAL said, 6C...but as least a little sympathy for the previous bidding. IF i couldnt't bring myself to bid 2C on the first round, this is where I am at.....6C obvious, now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDean Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I still would pass first round, but I agree 3♦ was too timid - I was overly influenced by the lack of a third diamond. Anyways, I was just doing a sanity check. I bid 6♦, thinking perhaps I should be trying for a grand. Down 1. Partner had --AJ8xxAJT9xxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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