zheddh Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Playing a 8 bd team against reasonable opponents, vul vs not, in second seat you pick up the following hand [hv=d=w&v=n&s=skxxhajdkjxxxctxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West opens 1♦, you pass, LHO bids 1♥ and partner overcalls 2♣. RHO now bids 2♥ showing 4 hearts. What do various bids by you mean here and what is your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 2NT nat, 3♣ just weak support, double I have no specific agreement, given that we denied 5 spades round before and partner has denied 4 I am not sure of its meaning. 3♦ = I stop this suit3♥ = I stop this suit too and diamonds because I passed previous round. Mabe this is my bid. 3NT I wanna play. Also a reasonable choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 When we have no cue-bid available, I prefer to play 2NT as a high-card raise. That's not standard, however. Either way, I'd bid 2NT. 3NT is too much, because it probably needs partner to have six fast club tricks and an ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I will have to step up and bid 3N which should have play, 2NT can be far weaker than this collection, after all partner has bidding into a forcing auction and should have a decent hand. I expect 6 C tricks and should have a reasonable chance of a couple more even with a H lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Playing a 8 bd team against reasonable opponents, vul vs not, in second seat you pick up the following hand [hv=d=w&v=n&s=skxxhajdkjxxxctxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West opens 1♦, you pass, LHO bids 1♥ and partner overcalls 2♣. RHO now bids 2♥ showing 4 hearts. What do various bids by you mean here and what is your call? Well I trust my partner to know that a V vs Not 2♣ call in this auction has the "goods" so I bid 3NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Both 2NT and 3NT looks a bit silly when wrong. I prefer to look silly in 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Both 2NT and 3NT looks a bit silly when wrong. I prefer to look silly in 3NT. Wow. This is almost word-for-word my motto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I prefer to look silly in 3C. everyone is bidding, and I trust partner to have something like QJX XX XX AKQJXX. Don't think they can make 3H, so my sacrifice in 3NT will not gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I love playing 2NT as natural which is what I'll do here. We are NV so I'll give partner a bit of leeway if he wants to subside in 3♣ when it's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I love playing 2NT as natural which is what I'll do here. We are NV so I'll give partner a bit of leeway if he wants to subside in 3♣ when it's right. You are V vs NOT per OP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Hi, we play reverse Good-Bad 2NT in this seq.We would start with 2NT, promising at least inv. values, if p showes upwith nothing and bids 3C, we will play 3C, otherwise I will bid 3NT.2NT does not promise a fit, but will be often based on one. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Both 2NT and 3NT looks a bit silly when wrong. I prefer to look silly in 3NT. Why does 2NT look silly? It is the right bid, inviting 3NT.(3NT is wrong with no honor in clubs) A good player should either accept or sign off in 3C. He should never want to play 2NT after a competitive sequence. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Both 2NT and 3NT looks a bit silly when wrong. I prefer to look silly in 3NT. Why does 2NT look silly? It is the right bid, inviting 3NT.(3NT is wrong with no honor in clubs) A good player should either accept or sign off in 3C. He should never want to play 2NT after a competitive sequence. Rainer HerrmannI am well aware that the final conract will normally be either 3♣ or 3NT. 2NT looks silly when partner bids 3♣, and there are 9 tricks for the taking. A danger I find relevant Partner will not be able to know what is good or ba values (like 10xx in hearts). "See no evil, hear no evil, bid 3NT." As hinted, I consider this close, and would never blame a partner that bid 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 2NT looks silly when partner bids 3♣, and there are 9 tricks for the taking. A danger I find relevant Partner will not be able to know what is good or ba values (like 10xx in hearts). If partner has ♣AKQxxx and ♠A, presumably he'll work out that his values are useful. It seems optimistic to bid 3NT because you hope that partner has a fitting 10 in a suit that opponents have bid and supported, and further that they can't or won't beat you by leading spades. As hinted, I consider this close, and would never blame a partner that bid 2NT.Personally, I don't think it at all close. Is it naive for me to ask why anybody would blame their partner for doing what he thought was right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Is it naive for me to ask why anybody would blame their partner for doing what he thought was right?Quite right. I will switch to use the term "educate partner" in the future. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 I know point counting is obsolete, but I need partner to have a running club suit and one of the pointed aces to make 3NT. That leaves the opening bidder and the responder with a total of 15 combined. I guess this is possible, if the first seat opener was a psyche with a rebid, or responder had qTXXX of hearts and an outside jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 oops, dupe--i hit the enter button too many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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