jillybean Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=b&s=sqxxhtxdaxxxxcjxx]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♠) 2♣ (P) ?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 3♣ I am not keen on that ♠Q but it is still not sub-minimum for a raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 3♣! Let's club those baby seals opps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 If 2 Spade is a good raise to 3 Club (or better) you can bid 3 club with this hand without a second thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Knock 'em out. 3♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted September 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=b&n=st97hj82dkcak9432&w=sakj86hak97dq765c&e=s54hq543djt8cqt87&s=sq32ht6da9432cj65]399|300|Scoring: MP(1♠) 2♣ (P) 3♣(X) AP[/hv] -2, just bad luck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Trumps 4-0 behind the length. No way to reach the ace of diamonds.Unlucky that most people where not able to reach icecold 4 Heart on E/W.. So: This is really bad bad luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I would be delighted to raise to 3C with this hand. How sad partner did not elect to pass, we may have defended 1S. Perhaps the trend is to o/c with this C suit, but this is not a very good bid even at pairs. 3 fast losers in the suit opened, along with an additional 3 fast H losers, this is a zero hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Agree with bob, I wouldn't bid 2♣ with north's hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I would always raise to 3♣ with the South hand. The actual result is very unlucky - for South. The North hand is not a vulnerable 2♣ overcall. Nonvul he might preempt 3♣, but that is a matter of style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=b&s=sqxxhtxdaxxxxcjxx]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♠) 2♣ (P) ?[/hv] Yes 3♣ but no whining or resulting from me about partner's 2♣ overcall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 2C overcall is horrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 agree with all --except I get to whine a little if I am south :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I wouldn't overcall 2♣ vulnerable. ♦ Kx and it becomes a nice minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 3♣ is fine and I think they make 4♥ though probably the field isn't bidding it. I don't understand the criticism of North's overcall. The other thread where someone got a bad result from failing to overcall with AQJTx and king was at least understandable but this is ridiculous. Not bidding with North is losing bridge by quite a wide margin, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Hi, the options are either Pass or 3C, if you have no conventional support,I would go with Pass due to the bad quality of the points, make the Q / Ja king, and I would bid 3C. With kind regardsMarlowe PS: ... and I would also overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 i think overcalling at MP is clear. At imps its a matter of style maybe. But certainly i would not criticise it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I'd raise for sure. As for the O/C...well it turns MP into poker. I don't really hate it but the vulnerability may lead to -200 or more on part score hands and that isn't good. At other times the opps may make the wrong choice or you buy the hand for a making 3♣ but good opps nail you lots more than fish do. Bidding 2♣ over 1♠ doesn't do near the harm to the opp's bidding that 2♣ over 1♦ can do so I'd pass vulnerable rather than O/C here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 I would overcall 2C as North every day of the week. OK, occasionally it may work out poorly. But a lot of the time I get a club lead when I need one, and that's worth its weight in gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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