gnasher Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 I don't think transfers are so good in this situation because there will be times where you need natural bidding and the similar situations where you use transfers or natural bidding might get blurred and then you have horrible misunderstandings.It seems a bit unreasonable to criticise a method because some people are too lazy to agree upon when it applies. Equally I could say that Stayman is a bad convention because some partnerships don't know whether it applies after a 1NT overcall. Anyway, this situation is easy to define: "After a non-passed hand makes a two-level response that is not game-forcing, or a negative double of a two-level overcall, and opener immediately rebids a non-forcing 2NT, we play transfers." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 In some other auctions, 3♠ may consist of both meanings (slam try in hearts or diamonds) and usually partner will bid 3NT and over that we remove to 4♦ to set diamonds or bid 4♣ suggesting self suited hand with a club control. For example, that auction might be 1♦-(1♠)-2♥-(2♠)-3♦-(Pass)-3♠. This 3♠ actually has a 3rd function, in that it is also a stopper ask. In this type of auction opener should always assume it is asking for a stopper, because if opener bids 3NT and responder removes that, it will tell opener that the intended meaning of 3♠ was a slam try. Over 2NT I will bid 3♠ which is artificial and forcing. By process of elimination (for this auction) it's pretty much showing a self suited hand. That is, if we had clubs we bid 3♣ (forcing), if we want to sign off in diamonds we bid 3♦ and that goes with 3♥ as well, and if we wanted to set diamonds we can bid 4♦. If 3♦ is non forcing why did you bid 2♥? I mean if you are worried about not being able to show a ♥ suit maybe you should use a negative double. IMO 3♦ is 1000% forcing. This frees up 4♦ to be what it should be....a ♥ self-splinterMy purpose of 2♥ was...natural bidding! Showing my 5th heart is huugee. How about say an unbalanced hand with either 6-4 or 5-4 with 9/10 count?x KQTxx ATxx xxx or x KJxxxx KQxx xx? I would rather not make a negative double with those hands as I have a diamonds as a backup support and when partner bids 2NT I would like for him to judge which strain we should play in considering I did my best to describe my hand - that is, hearts and diamonds but less than GF. I would also prefer not to support diamonds right away to supress what might be a making 4♥ contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=skqhakj87643d2cj2]133|100|Scoring: MP1♦ (1♠) ?[/hv] Not playing NFB's - your bid? It started ok 1♦ (1♠) 2♥ (P)2N (P) Dare I suggest..........Gerber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=skqhakj87643d2cj2]133|100|Scoring: MP1♦ (1♠) ?[/hv] Not playing NFB's - your bid? It started ok 1♦ (1♠) 2♥ (P)2N (P) Dare I suggest..........Gerber? Gerber would be great on this hand if you played it in this situation. But even suggesting the use of Gerber in these Fora is probably grounds for expulsion. Or worse. Of course, Gerber would not solve your problem. Suppose partner shows 2 aces. You may be cold for 6♥ if partner has the ♥Q. Or you may be off two top club tricks. But, then again, it may be an impossible problem to solve. At least Gerber will prevent you from going beyond 4♥ when partner has only 1 ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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