jillybean Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sjxhqjxxd97xxxcax]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♠) 2♠ (P) ?[/hv] Your bid and your reasoning please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeac Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 3h because i want to be in the 5 4 major suit fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I bid 2NT, and if the minor is diamonds, 4h....if the other minor is clubs, I will bid 3H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 4H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 4H. I have QJ and a 4 card trump suit and the CA. What more do I need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 after some evaluation, I agree with 4H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 4h because i want to be in the 5 4 major suit fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Oh reasoning ... I expect something like ♠ x♥ AKxxx♦ xx♣ KQxxx is pretty close to minimum for a vulnerable versus not 2♠. And partner could be better than this e.g. with diamonds !!!! And even if slightly worse we will often have a play for game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 4H, given partner bid at r/w it should be a decent hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 4♥. Vul vs not partner should have a decent hand. 4 card support, all cards working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 4H Ahhh, the transfer to 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Jx, QJX, 97xxx, Ax My first thought was 4♥ but decided 2N was the smarter way to bid it, if we had a ♦/♥ fit I'd be happy to compete to the 5/6 level. This hand was sent to me from a local tournament, what happened at the table was; (1♠) 2♠ (P) 2N(4♠) AP Terrible board, partner held x AKxxxx Void Kxxxxx Is 2N acceptable if I would bid 4/5♥ over any response or does it just complicate things unnecessarily? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 If you have long diamonds, you could bid 2NT and then correct 3♣ to 3♦. So, IMO, it makes sense for 3♦ in these sequences to show invitational+ with support for the major. Whereas on this hand that course might not be the best course, if the idea is to hedge, this has some merit. Partner, with the actual hand, may well push to 5♥. The problem with 2NT as the invitational ask is this very situation. Partner does not know if you bid 2NT because of interest or out of fear. 3♦ as a major raise with values allows partner in on the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 4H we might make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 4H we might make it. double dummy? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Jx, QJX, 97xxx, Ax My first thought was 4♥ but decided 2N was the smarter way to bid it, if we had a ♦/♥ fit I'd be happy to compete to the 5/6 level. This hand was sent to me from a local tournament, what happened at the table was; (1♠) 2♠ (P) 2N(4♠) AP Terrible board, partner held x AKxxxx Void Kxxxxx Is 2N acceptable if I would bid 4/5♥ over any response or does it just complicate things unnecessarily? Kathryn - 2N will only help you to decide what to do over 4♠ if you FIRST hear partner's minor, THEN they bid 4♠. Against good opponents this will never happen (they either bid 4♠ right away, or they don't). Planning what to do over 4♠ is a good idea, but only if you can find a bid that helps immediately. Since we (all of us except Ken ;) ) don't have such a bid, just bidding 4♥ and hoping to get to play it is better.Partner shouldn't pass out 4♠ with 6-6, but note that it would have been even easier for him to raise if we had bid 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Planning what to do over 4♠ is a good idea, but only if you can find a bid that helps immediately. Since we (all of us except Ken ;) ) don't have such a bid, just bidding 4♥ and hoping to get to play it is better. Maybe the right time to plan what to do over 4♠ is when filling out your convention card. This sort of hand is the reason that people specific two-suiters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Agree with everything Arend said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Planning what to do over 4♠ is a good idea, but only if you can find a bid that helps immediately. Since we (all of us except Ken :) ) don't have such a bid, just bidding 4♥ and hoping to get to play it is better. Maybe the right time to plan what to do over 4♠ is when filling out your convention card. This sort of hand is the reason that people specific two-suiters. That often helps, but sometimes shape is not the entire story. When Overcaller's range can be wide, communication is always facilitated when there is a discourse as to strength at some point, by at least one of the partners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Partners second pass was clearly wrong. Your 2 NT bid was wrong too. Of course this is nice if the opponents promise to be silent. But the opps have a spade fit. Even if partner is 3505, they have a fit. So it is madatory to show YOUR support as soon as possible. You have no time to make an educated guess over partners minor suit bid. So 4 Heart had been right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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