gwnn Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 1S-1NT2C-2S3D??? Can you give a hand that would bid like this? 1NT was forcing and 2C promised 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 AQJxx x Axx AQxx or so, 5134/5044/6034 type shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 IMO this sequence denies a 6th spade, with the only possible fit on a minor it must be 5044 or 5035 with extras (almost worth a jump the previous round) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 AQJxx x Axx AQxx This is a good example hand, and I agree with fluffy that 5035 is possible while 6034 is not (since 3D is NF). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 1S-1NT2C-2S3D??? Can you give a hand that would bid like this? 1NT was forcing and 2C promised 3. I can't! But I am sure some of the ones who play 2♣ is "forcing" in this auction will come up with a hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 1S-1NT2C-2S3D??? Can you give a hand that would bid like this? 1NT was forcing and 2C promised 3. I can't! But I am sure some of the ones who play 2♣ is "forcing" in this auction will come up with a hand. So will the ones who play it non-forcing... Since 2♣ isn't non-forcing, it's less than the 19 or so points that would be required for a jump-shift. Since 2♠ was weak, it's a hand that could conceivably make game opposite a low-ranging 1NT(F) response (i.e. up to 9 or so - so not a minimum opener). Then fill in the blanks with the distribution suggested by the sequence. The 5=1=3=4 17-count suggested by effervesce seems ideal and typical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Does anyone agree with me that 2NT should articially show the 5134 17 count to allow a club partial if responder has, say, 2 4 3 4 and a weak response? I know the 5224 17 count would then be lost or have to make the same 2NT bid, but is that bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 2NT shows for me the 15-17 balanced hand. You have to open all 5 card major balanced hands in 1NT for that to be even playable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 2NT shows for me the 15-17 balanced hand. You have to open all 5 card major balanced hands in 1NT for that to be even playable.yepWe do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Does anyone agree with me that 2NT should articially show the 5134 17 count to allow a club partial if responder has, say, 2 4 3 4 and a weak response? I know the 5224 17 count would then be lost or have to make the same 2NT bid, but is that bad? If partner really had a very weak 2434 wouldn't he pass 2C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Does anyone agree with me that 2NT should articially show the 5134 17 count to allow a club partial if responder has, say, 2 4 3 4 and a weak response? I know the 5224 17 count would then be lost or have to make the same 2NT bid, but is that bad? If partner really had a very weak 2434 wouldn't he pass 2C?no i dont think it would be a great idea to eschew the 5-2 fit and leave the reds open for the opps at the two level in order to play a possible 4-3 fit. But, still would like opinions about the possibility of using 2nt rather than 3D on the given 5-1-3-4 17 count... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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