Fluffy Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 ♠J2♥J10983♦J754♣K4 All vul, dealer west (1♣)-X-(3♣)-ps(ps)-X-(4♣)-ps(ps)-X-(ps)-?? 3♣ alerted as weak4♣ alerted as "max" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 4♥ for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 would have bid 4H over 4C directly, now I bid 4H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Another 4♥ bidder. PD is insisting for a reason, IMHO and I think we should prefer trying for our own game to passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 would have bid 4H over 4C directly, now I bid 4H yep two doubles was enough to get me in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 ♠J2♥J10983♦J754♣K4 All vul, dealer west (1♣)-X-(3♣)-ps(ps)-X-(4♣)-ps(ps)-X-(ps)-?? 3♣ alerted as weak4♣ alerted as "max" 4♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Very strange not to bid 4♥ over 4♣. After the double, it is a wtp. (5♥ is simply to rich.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Lol at RHO. Agree with Justin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Lol at RHO. Agree with Justin. But wait! If RHO is bidding 4♣ over our response to the double, shouldn't he do it right away? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Lol at RHO. Agree with Justin. But wait! If RHO is bidding 4♣ over our response to the double, shouldn't he do it right away? :P Likely he was a misguided soul hoping to get to 3N if partner was strong :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 all of you have better judgement than me :( [hv=n=saxxxhakxxdaq9xc10&w=skq9xhxxdkxxcaxxx&e=s10xxhqxd10xcqjxxxx&s=sjxhj10xxxdjxxxckx]399|300|[/hv] I though my hand would be more useful playing in clubs than hearts, but sadly ♣K wasn't onside so it was useless. 4♥ should normally make, althou you might screw up?. Anyway, I was dissapointed by opponents hands, exchanging ♣A for ♥Q would make my decision brilliant :P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Wouldn't occur to me to bid 4♥ on the previous round since the ♣K is my only significant value. Now it wouldn't occur to me not to bid 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Wouldn't occur to me to bid 4♥ on the previous round since the ♣K is my only significant value.Then try to imagine partners possible hands: ♠ xxxx♥ AQxx♦ A109xx♣ - or ♠ KQxx♥ Qxxx♦ AKxxx♣ - or ♠ AQxx♥ AQxx♦ Kxxx♣ x or ♠ AQxxx♥ Qxxx♦ AKxx♣ x or ♠ Kxxx♥ AKxx♦ KQxx♣ x And these are all minimum hands. partner can easily have extras without being able to X 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 all of you have better judgement than me :( Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown ♠ Axxx ♥ AKxx ♦ AQ9x ♣ 10 ♠ KQ9x ♥ xx ♦ Kxx ♣ Axxx ♠ 10xx ♥ Qx ♦ 10x ♣ QJxxxx ♠ Jx ♥ J10xxx ♦ Jxxx ♣ Kx I though my hand would be more useful playing in clubs than hearts, but sadly ♣K wasn't onside so it was useless. 4♥ should normally make, althou you might screw up?. Anyway, I was lucky with the opponents hands. Exchanging the ♦K with the ♥Q would have made my decision downrigt silly. :D.FYP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 How about: ♠ KTxx♥ AKx♦ A98xx♣ Q ♠ Kxxx♥ AKxx♦ Axxx♣ x ♠ Kxxx♥ KQx♦ AKT9x♣ x ♠ AKxx♥ Kxx♦ AQxx♣ xx ♠ KQxx♥ Axxx♦ AQxx♣ x These were the first few hands I got out of my simulator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 How about: ♠ KTxx♥ AKx♦ A98xx♣ Q ♠ Kxxx♥ AKxx♦ Axxx♣ x ♠ Kxxx♥ KQx♦ AKT9x♣ x ♠ AKxx♥ Kxx♦ AQxx♣ xx ♠ KQxx♥ Axxx♦ AQxx♣ x These were the first few hands I got out of my simulator. Opposite♠J2♥J10983♦J754♣K4 The first two hands you posted I don't think are worth a 2nd double, the double of 3♣, given partner could not bid. And even though 4♥ isn't good, both of them still have play for 4♥. Hand 3 you want to be in 4♥.Hand 4, give us the ten of diamonds and you want to be in 4♥.Hand 5, again give us the ten of diamonds (or 10 of spades) and you want to be in 4♥.And those hands are pessimistic hands, partner could (and probably does) have better hands than those for the double of 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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