mtvesuvius Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Say RHO opens 1♦ and you hold AJxx xx Kx QJxxx, what do you bid?How about Axxx xx xx AKQxx? AKQx x Jxx KJTxx? Do you prefer overcalling the minor on the 2 level, or overcalling the 4 card suit. I had this come up several times in Turkey, and I chose to overcall the 4 card suit, which worked well every time. I am wondering though, in the long run is this a good practice? What about over 1♥ with 4♠ and 5m? What does the strength of the hand have to do with it? etc... Thoughts here would be appreciated... or even wtps :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Say LHO opens 1♦ and you hold AJxx xx Kx QJxxx, what do you bid? I don't bid out of turn, so i guess I have to wait until partner and RHO have made their bids. :) Assuming you mean RHO, those who play Raptor firmly believe that bidding 5-4 hands is worth while.http://www.bridgeguys.com/Conventions/Raptor.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted August 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Say LHO opens 1♦ and you hold AJxx xx Kx QJxxx, what do you bid? I don't bid out of turn, so i guess I have to wait until partner and RHO have made their bids. :) Oops, still asleep, I'll fix it :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Hand 1: Clear pass.Hand 2: Clear 2C.Hand 3: Not clear at all, but I do not like 2C. I prefer pass, hoping to be able to double later, but don't mind 1S at all. Up until pretty recently I overcalled the 4 card major like 80 % with this hand type. Good thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Say RHO opens 1♦ and you hold AJxx xx Kx QJxxx, what do you bid? Better to get in the auction with 1♠ than pass; 2♣ is not a consideration except at favorable How about Axxx xx xx AKQxx? AKQx x Jxx KJTxx? For the first I have to choose between 1♠ and 2♣ and I choose the ♣ for this one. For the second I choose 1♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 More or less like justin, with a 4135 with 2 good suits I prefer to bid the major, I hate bidding 5 card suits at the 2 level, but AKQxx does the trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 IMO, this is sort of a situation that is similar to responding to Opener at the two-level. If you have four spades and five clubs, you tend to bid the major (all things equal) when you have a one-bid hand, but tend to bid the minor if you have a two-bid hand (often planning a reopening double later if necessary). Or, the stronger I am, the more likely I'd bid the minor first. However, in complete disregard for what I just wrote, if I am really weak, opposite a passed hand, I often bid the minor at IMP scoring if game seems remote. The factors would be preemption of the opponents and lead-direction, especially after a 1♦ opening. P-1♦-2♣-? is a great start when I as overcaller have unexpected length in one of the majors, reducing the chances of the opponents having an easy counter for my overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 I'm also with Pass, 2♣ and 1♠. And I hate hate raptor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 I love raptor because of frequency issues. I had to give it up two years ago and still wait for a strong NT hand to come in defence. :( Anyway, whitout raptor: I like to rebid 2 Club over 1 Diamond as often as possible. I read this in the book of Sabine Auken and it works for me. I will rebid spade or X later if possible. To me this seems to win much more hands then it loses, but maybe I am biased. So I would go with 2 Club at all three hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Vulnerable, I would never consider an overcall in a AJxx suit. You get just too many horrible results from going down 3 or 4 in your 4-2 fit in 1♠ on a partscore deal. Non-vulnerable, I wouldn't mind a 1♠ overcall on your first hand, but I wouldn't do it. On the last one I would overcall 1♠ at any form of scoring and vulnerability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 #1: Clear cut pass#2: Clear cut 2C#3: Unclear but I will bid 2C over 1D to maximize the blocking effect of the overcall and because of the suit quality, KJ10. I am aware this could still go for a number but think it quite unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Say RHO opens 1♦ and you hold AJxx xx Kx QJxxx, what do you bid?How about Axxx xx xx AKQxx? AKQx x Jxx KJTxx? Do you prefer overcalling the minor on the 2 level, or overcalling the 4 card suit. I had this come up several times in Turkey, and I chose to overcall the 4 card suit, which worked well every time. I am wondering though, in the long run is this a good practice? What about over 1♥ with 4♠ and 5m? What does the strength of the hand have to do with it? etc... Thoughts here would be appreciated... or even wtps :D 2c on all three. side note I play Astro over 1d by rho so pard knows I do not have long clubs with 4h. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 1NT Polish if available, else Pass2C1S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantumcat Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I wouldn't ever overcall a four card suit, my partners always raise me as high as they have an excuse to. Except perhaps if he is passed and the only honours I have are in the suit and they are good ones (help partner avoid a bad lead). Aren't you worried in overcalling the AJxx that 1) it may be a bad lead (it catches the jack for the opponents and they make a trick more than if they had to play it themselves) or that your partner might feel aggressive and bid 4♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Aren't you worried in overcalling the AJxx that 1) it may be a bad lead (it catches the jack for the opponents and they make a trick more than if they had to play it themselves) or that your partner might feel aggressive and bid 4♠? Who is "you" ? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantumcat Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Everyone who agreed with overcalling 1♠ on AJxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Nope, not at all as this would clearly be a situation you have discussed with partner.Aren't YOU worried about getting crowded out of the auction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattieShoe Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 1. Pass. Supposed to have a reasonably strong 5 card suit to overcall, and it's not there.2. 2♣ definitely. strong 5 card suit, 13 HCP, 4 quicktricks... Textbook overcall for me :-)3. 2♣ but I'd feel a bit queasy about it, especially if vulnerable. If nothing else, it may give partner something to lead towards if they win contract, maybe have the opporuntiy to finesse the board. I don't overcall 4 card suits, except maybe with AKQJ while not vulnerable or some such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 1) Pass as neither suit is good enough for me and I have only 11 hcp. 2) 2♣ for sure. 3) A 55/45 preference for 1♠ on this really strong suit, getting the boss suit into the auction now. 2♣ is OK..pass is not for me. Just my opinions.. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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