P_Marlowe Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Hi 1S - (2H) - 2NT (1) - (Pass)4C (2) - (Pass) - 5C (3) - (Pass)Pass - (Pass) (1) Transfer to clubs, at least a good 5 card suit, at least 8HCP, 3 card spade support still possile (2) Natural and forcing, the alterntive is 4H (my first reaction), but the hand is pretty strong, and 4C gives partner the most room for a cue(3) no cue or no interest Playing standard 1S - (2H) - X (1) - (Pass)4S (2) -(Pass) - Pass (3) - (Pass) (1) Neg. X, at least 8HCP, most likely both minors, but nt 100% clear(2) I guess 4C is better, and 4C should be forcing, ... and 3S would be NF, although I am hard pressed to find hands, where the auction would die in 3S (3) one has already shown 8 of the 12HCP, and the Queen of heart is not worth a lot, so pass is clear With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 We lost a Swiss teams last night after leading going into the last round, mainly because of three slam (or not) hands. The third one is below: [hv=d=w&w=sakq9xxhxdkxcqjxx&e=stxhqxdqjxxcakxxx]266|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]Bid these hands. North overcalls 2♥. Unfortunately you are not playing Kickback though perhaps you will consider doing so after this hand. hmm as a nonexpert I would expect to get to 4s or 5c and never a slam. Was this yet another cuebidding disaster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 1♠ - (2♥) - X4♣ - 4NT Playing 1430 you are home free, playing 0314 you are FCK'ed. In my own obscure system: 1♠ - (2♥) - X4♣ - 4NT* *Promising exactly two aces and a diamond-control. In my world 1♠ - (2♥) - X4♣ - 4♠ Is to play, with two or three spades. Thus bidding 4♣ is no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted August 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 What happened at the table is that East bid 3♣ instead of double and West drove to slam. As I mentioned at the start there was no suitable ace ask available and West took the view that East would have to have quite a precise collection of cards for slam to be bad. I am about 60/40 in favour of double instead of 3♣ and the 3♠-4♠ continuation works too but I still have a feeling it's just a bit lucky for clubs to get lost on a hand that also happens to be missing two aces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Even if East bids 3♣ (a significant overbid IMO), I don't see any reason to bid slam. Didn't it now continue 4♣-5♣, with East clearly denying a red-suit ace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 but I still have a feeling it's just a bit lucky for clubs to get lost on a hand that also happens to be missing two aces. I don't think it is that lucky. Both hands are deficient in controls. An average 15 count has about 5 controls - this one has 4 - and an average 12 count has nearly 4 controls - this one has 3. In terms of slam it is therefore reasonable for both players to be a little bit pessimistic. With sharper cards we could take more optimistic views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I didn't miss clubs, even asked for keycards and ended up in 5♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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