andrei Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 IMP, you hold: ♠Txx♥AJT9xx♦x♣Kxx Partner deals and opens: 1♦ - pass - 1♥ - pass - 4♥ - pass - ?? Would you pass or bid on?If you move on, what would you bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 4♥ is typically a weak 64 for me, with weak diamonds, obviously if partner has ♣Ax and ♦A slam will be playable, but if not.... I won't move. But if moving, at first I though 5♣ was the right way to move on, so that partner knows his spade shortness is the key. But now I think that the correct move is 4NT instead, partner might blow 6♥ of 2 aces otherwise based on good diamonds wich we don't care much about, and ♠Ax might be good enough to take care of the suit. Waht we really need is 3 cards from ♠A, ♥K, ♦A, ♣A. Partner won't ever know how worthless ♦KQJ ♥Q are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 If 5C is a cue and if you'd normally cue spades if you have a control there, I'd bid 5C, says everything at once, otherwise try RKC and hope partner doesn't show 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Yes unless partner is one of those who will open one and then jump to game with weak distributional hands. In my partnership this jump to 4♥ shows real values and denies a shortage. I have a few extra values and extra trumps which will be extra tricks. The five-level should be safe and even it not is worth the risk of finding a good slam. I bid 5♣ to deny a spade control and show a club control.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 If partner was weak and distributional, I would ask why the opponents are quiet. I think its quite likely partner has the 4432 19 count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I agree that partners most possible hand is around a 3442 with around 19 HCPs. So Akx, Kxxx,AKxx,Qx or similar makes slam quite good. KQJ, QJxx,AKQx,Jx puts 5 in danger. Anyway, I make a move. But I am not sure which one. I guess I try RCKB. The chance that they can cash two spades seems to be lower then the chance that they can cash two KCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I'm with the 5♣ crowd as the message seems clear: I'm interested in slam but have nothing is spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Yes I bid on. I have a 6th trump and Kxx to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 :) PassThis could be wrong, but I gotta play the percentages. Pard's ♥ Q is wasted as are his ♦ honors other than the ace (most likely). He didn't splinter or show solid ♦. Good partners almost never have a stiff on this auction. Even an old fashioned "point count" analysis gives me 11 or 12 "dummy points" opposite pard's 20 - not quite enough. I can construct hands where 6 is a flop:AKKQxxJ9xxAQxbut it takes a bit of thought. As brother Bob says, "If it takes the magic hand to make slam, DON'T TRY FOR IT". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 LOL @ pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 5♣. Partner rates to have a 4432 19 count or something of the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andrei Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I have passed, but I think I am convinced now that I should have bid on. Anyway, this time pass was the winner, when partner had: ♠AKQJ♥KQxx♦ATx♣xx and the ♣ finesse was off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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