MickyB Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=saxxxxhatxxdcjtxx]133|100|Scoring: IMPRHO opens 1♦. Do you bid 1♠ or dbl?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 1♠. When I try Double on hands like this (shapely and light), my partners inevitably bid (a lot of..) notrumps. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Once upon a time, pass was an option too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted August 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Once upon a time, pass was an option too. I presume this isn't a vote for pass? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Once upon a time, pass was an option too. I presume this isn't a vote for pass? :unsure: No, I bid 1♠, to avoid being ridiculed by my peers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd6789 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 1♠ - X and we probably miss a 5-3 spade fit - I know we risk missing a 4-4 heart fit but that might come to light later if p is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=saxxxxhatxxdcjtxx]133|100|Scoring: IMPRHO opens 1♦. Do you bid 1♠ or dbl?[/hv] this is a clear 1♠ call if the other choice is X. X is not just about shape but defensive strength as well and this just doesn't have enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 My brother doubled (as I would have) on this hand. The hand is only really worth one action and you want to play in partner's long suit given that you will be ruffing diamonds. Finding a 5-3 spade fit is not so great when you have to ruff at trick one. I'll add that we would tend to overcall on slightly stronger hands, just to avoid total ridicule. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Lack values for a double, I like to bid 1M instead of double with 54 in the majors because you are burying your most likelly fit otherwise, and if you ahve fit you discover it instantly. But this concrete hand would ask for a double if I had the values, don't wanna mes with an opponent with4 strong spades! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 1♠ Doesn't completely bury the heart suit, as it opens up some responsive doubles from partners. I would back in with a double after: (1♦) - 1♠ - (2♦) - Pass(Pass) Quite tough, but my partner usually takes out my take-out doubles, and I am an overbidder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I am used to being ridiculed so: Pass I hate my spades for 1 spade and my HCPS and shape for double. Make it a little stronger, say Ajxxx in spades and it would be enough to bid spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 1♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 1♠. Might take another action later, depending on what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I consider this hand a clear t/o dble even though I would not want to open the bidding with this. When you face a choice of actions, an overcall or t/o dble, the choice of the o/c should be a sensible suit. If I choose to o/c in S and partner were to pass the next players contribution to the bidding I am no longer able to compete without overstating my values. Consider 1D 1S 2D P, you really want to dble now, partner awaits with his D suit and passes the dble you may have some explaining to do when they make an over trick or 2. I want to compete for the part score here if I can as safely as possible. I would like partner to know I can support the other suits, I can do that very well in fact. The fear of the 5-3 major fit here is over rated IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Agree with Arend here. Double gets all the suits in play, although with stronger spades and weaker hearts, I'd overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Double. And I am usually the one bidding my suit when most other people are doubling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Reverse hearts and spades and I vote for double. As it is, 1S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I don't care too much. 1♠ or Double. On many probably most and maybe all auctions I will not be worth another free bid so 1♠ may lose the other suits and double may lose a good 5=3 spade fit. I am not PASSing with this much strength and distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 My first choice is pass, it's not going all pass and I will have more information on the next round. My second choice is double. 1♠ doesn't even enter into the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 X. Don't mind 1S too much either. Pass is very soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Dealer: East Vul: N/S Scoring: IMP ♠ Axxxx ♥ ATxx ♦ [space] ♣ JTxx RHO opens 1♦. Do you bid 1♠ or dbl? The old standards to go by is that you need 11pts to double in Direct seat for a takeout double that your partner can respond in a suit at the one level so.....1s for me.... If you prefer double here, npp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Dealer: East Vul: N/S Scoring: IMP ♠ Axxxx ♥ ATxx ♦ [space] ♣ JTxx RHO opens 1♦. Do you bid 1♠ or dbl? The old standards to go by is that you need 11pts to double in Direct seat for a takeout double that your partner can respond in a suit at the one level so.....1s for me.... This isn't a bad standard however at all levels the presence of a void creates addtional licence to act a little lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I am doubling here as I have 4 card support for the unbids and my ♠ aren't terribly strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Double. And I am usually the one bidding my suit when most other people are doubling. heh, funny I feel the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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