mike777 Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 MP Both NV In third seat your hand is: 83....VOID.....A976.....KJ96542 the bidding goes: 1S=P=1NT=(2H)X? Please describe what the x means and what partner's hand is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 SAYC has the following guidelines: "Here are some guidelines as to when an X is penalty. Be wary of doubling the opponents for penalty on the strength of partner's overcall. 1. When the X is made late in the auction: i.e. 1♠-P-2♠-P-4♠-X 2. When the X's partner has accurately described both his strength and distribution. 3. When either partner has XX'ed earlier 4. When either has earlier made a penalty X or a penalty pass of a takeout X 5. When an artificial bid has been X'ed 6. When the major suit response to a preempt has been X'ed 7. In borderline cases, when the X'er is behind the original bidder" I think 2. above does not apply to a 1NT response which is wide ranging in terms of distribution. Some might think 7. applies. Therefore I would play takeout doubles in this sequence. Others agree that double is penalties by opener or responder after a 1NT response. In the end it is a matter of partnership agreement like so many other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 t/o, partnership agreement, we usually reopen fairly agressive,so if I would ever have a pen. X, I could easily pass and await partners X. A hard fast simple rule, "all" low level doubles are for t/o, meansI am not forced to learn a long list, which I would forget the moment I close the book / script. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 With my partner this take out, so I bid clubs. I try 4 clubs, because I have a great hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 takeout double. but partner probably misbid. <----------------------euphemism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Agree with Roland. I can see many hands consistent with the take out double, just they aren't very likelly :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd6789 Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Should be t/o - if p wants to play in 2HX he'll have to hope you'll reopen - possible shapes would be 6133, or 5044 5134 with good spades If there is no heart raise I will wonder what is going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 DBL shows a good hand with good ♥. Partner can leave it in, correct back to ♠, invite with NT, or get out in a minor with a garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 DBL shows a good hand with good ♥. Partner can leave it in, correct back to ♠, invite with NT, or get out in a minor with a garbage. Isn't this the definition of a DSIP X. I choose 3♣ as my response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Mr. Burrows (Cascade) did a great job of presenting the issue. I agree takeout, here, but he explains it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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