Cascade Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=s98764h103da7ckqj9]133|100|Scoring: IMPPASS (3♦) 3♥ (PASS)?[/hv] What do you do now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 3♠, since my failure to preempt makes it unlikely that I have 6 so partner will try to avoid raising on 2. If I were not a passed hand, I would bid 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wclass___ Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 3NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I like helene's reasoning, but spades are too bad, 4 hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I like Helenes reasoning and would be quite sure that my partner will play me for a 5 card suit and that he would hope for heart tolerance.. And if his spade support happens too be 235 we may still make game.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I like Helenes reasoning and also bid 3♠. I hope partner will bid 3NT with some kind of ♦ stop. Very possible that 3NT will be the only contract we can make, but partner will need a stop for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Nice problem... I would bid 4♥ I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd6789 Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I don't like this hand - the spades are so weak and if we play in H and they lead a D I don't have many entries left so my clubs may not be that useful. rho reckons to have spade and heart honours over my partner. If p had a good hand with a good H suit she/he could have bid 4S. pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 4H. S are not good enough to bid 3, particularly as the pre empt augurs bad breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 3NT, second choice 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se12sam Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I'm too scared to bid a suit topped by 9 :). 4♥ for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 4♥, Im not mentioning those tatty ♠'s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=s98764h103da7ckqj9]133|100|Scoring: IMPPASS (3♦) 3♥ (PASS)?[/hv] What do you do now? 4♥ and pass are about equiprobable to be right so 4♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I think pass is very pessimistic. We have ten working points and tolerance for partner's suit, and partner has made a constructive bid although we are a passed hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 4♦ choice of games. I think that's best for a passed hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I like 4♦. Until I saw gwnn's post, I would have bid 4♥. But 4♦ is the best of all worlds - it brings spades into the picture but not with the same emphasis as a 3♠ bid would do, it shows heart tolerance, and it also shows that I have a great hand on the auction, just in case partner has any slam ambitions (unlikely, but never say never). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 This is a near perfect hand for 3S. It show 5S and either a H tolerance or a D stopper or "edited" black 5-5. If partner ... pass = not likely but we should be ok 3Nt = easy pass (i hope people realized that its possible 3Nt is the only makeable game)4C = ill bid 4H to tell him i have tol in H and not 5-5 in the blacks.4D COG = easy 4H 4H = easy pass4S = he will have 3 or 4 card support so im happy. Sure its possible 4H in 6-2 plays better but a sure fit is a sure fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I really doubt 4♦ COG is a mainstream treatment here, it's definitely far from standard. With a pick-up expert I'd expect it to be a strong raise to 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I really doubt 4♦ COG is a mainstream treatment here, it's definitely far from standard. With a pick-up expert I'd expect it to be a strong raise to 4♥. Agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I agree with that skjaeran, my post was more of a wish than what I'd do with a pick-up expert. But I definitely think 4♦=COG is the best treatment, at least as a passed hand. I remember someone (MFA?) said you can use these cuebids as cog OR a strong raise. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 4♥, I don't like any reasoning that doesn't raise hearts here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I agree with that skjaeran, my post was more of a wish than what I'd do with a pick-up expert. But I definitely think 4♦=COG is the best treatment, at least as a passed hand. I remember someone (MFA?) said you can use these cuebids as cog OR a strong raise. Interesting. I like to play COG cuebids, but here I would prefer to play 4♦ as good raise. With a COG you can bid...3♠! Now, partner's 4♦ cuebid in reply to 3♠ OTOH makes a lot of sense as COG, and if playing that, 3♠ would become more attractive. Lacking that agreement I would bid 4♥ - bidding 3N with these slow club tricks seems to gamble on a double diamond stopper, or on running hearts AND the club ace (or diamonds 7222 with LHO having no entry). Edit: Even if 4♦ in replay to 3♠ was COG, it seems still very wrong to bid 3♠. On most hands where we belong in spades rather than hearts, partner would have doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 IMO.... 3♠=103NT=94♥=7Pass=0 Can't belive that people are advocating pass here. That's a borderline partner asking bid in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted August 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 4♦ choice of games. I think that's best for a passed hand. Someone has discovered a new gadget B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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