Rebid?

[cnszsun]

[hv=d=s&v=n&s=saxhaxxdakqjxxxcx]133|100|Scoring: IMP

1♦-ps-1♥-ps

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[Double !]

Simple answer for me (since I play a rebid of 1S as forcing 1 round).

 

2♠: another one of my insane toys or specialized bids: shows a running minor, a spade stopper, and very much looking for a club stopper and/ or, in this case, 5+ hearts (and is very much alertable as it denies 4+ spades). Responder's first obligation, however, is to show a club stopper if possessed. I promise another rebid.

 

Just ask one small favor. Please, Please! Don't laugh too hard at me for presenting this treatment. Self-disclosure has its risks.

 

DHL :rolleyes:

[Cascade]

Sounds like a useful treatment.

 

I was going to post another treatment but then noticed that this is the SAYC, 2/1 forum. So I wasn't sure if we were looking for non-standard gadgets.

 

For what it is worth we bid 4♦ with this hand showing a Game force hand with lots of distribution and at least six diamonds (probably seven) and three hearts.

[the hog]

I would not laugh at your 2S bid, especially as i see no logic at all in 1S being nf.

Personally I would bid 2NT with this hand, which is my gadget.

[Fluffy]

2NT but I won't like it if partne bids 3, we might easilly lose all clubs or have slam.

[pooltuna]

I thought 3NT showed this hand type, a gambling 3NT only with side suit stoppers. Not that I am too keen on bidding 3NT as with 6♥ parnter is never going to figure out we probably have a slam so perhaps the 2NT bidders risk missing 6NT or 7NT with something like [hv=s=sxxxhkqjxdxxcaxxx]133|100|[/hv] but in return get to 6♥ with something like [hv=s=sxxxhkqjxdxxcaxxx]133|100|[/hv]

and the 4♦ bidders have modified the "convention with no name" to suit what I guess they feel is a higher frequency

The ♠bidders are subject to having problems if partner is 4-4 in the majors

I have not seen the 2♣ opener proponents yet but presume they will point out the 9 tricks in hand.

In short an ugly problem

[aguahombre]

I thought 3NT showed this hand type, a gambling 3NT only with side suit stoppers. Not that I am too keen on bidding 3NT as with 6♥ parnter is never going to figure out we probably have a slam so perhaps the 2NT bidders risk missing 6NT or 7NT with something like [hv=s=sxxxhkqjxdxxcaxxx   but in return get to 6♥ with something like

dealer: ????? vul: ???? scoring: unknown]133|100| ♠ xxx ♥ KQxxx ♦ x ♣ xxxx  [/hv] and the 4♦ bidders have modified the  "convention with no name" to suit what I guess they feel is a higher frequency The ♠bidders are subject to having problems if partner is 4-4 in the majors I have not seen the 2♣ opener proponents yet but presume they will point out the 9 tricks in hand. In short an ugly problem Pointing out the flaws in each action very nicely. Cascade's solution implies the flaw in a 3NT rebid, which for many would suggest the same hand pattern, but with a singleton heart rather than a singleton club. For 2C opening, some would not choose to set a freight train in motion without a tenth trick or more high-card strength.   This leaves his 4D invention as the only choice, if partner will work it out. Unfortunately I am left with no solution, since 4D would be a non-serious hand with 4-6 in the reds. Might have to live with the results of the 2S jump shift rebid.

[ochinko]

Not having special gadgets for these sort of hands I rebid 3NT. This describes my hand best. Theoretically partner could pass 2NT when absolutely minimal.

[Free]

I also have a 2NT gadget available for this hand.

 

Otherwise, well, you know, it's the hand of death, 3♦ or 3NT I guess...

[benlessard]

2S. The cheapest forcing bid. The way i play If partner raise you to 4S he should have a diamond tolerance & deny half a stopper or better in clubs.

 

IMO playing fake jump-shift is a lot better than any other solution. (artificial 2Nt etc...)

[peachy]

3NT. Unless I have (another) gadget to show this hand at a lower level.