How do you bid this slam?

[quiddity]

I think you are smoking too much crack. East would bid the same way with: x, Axx, KQx, Q9xxxx.

 

Why would you want to move past 3N now?

Somehow I find a way to live with myself.

[Winstonm]

I think you are smoking too much crack.  East would bid the same way with: x, Axx, KQx, Q9xxxx.

 

Why would you want to move past 3N now?

Somehow I find a way to live with myself.

Then obviously you are not taking bridge seriously enough. :(

[peachy]

1♣ -1♠,

2♣ -2♦ (New Minor suit Force),

2♥(force to show good hand, partner already showed no 4 cards H) - 3♣(Jx is minimum in expert bidding),

3♦(further force to show better hand) - 3S♠ (show slam interests)

3NT (sign-off) - 4♠ (further slam interests plus good ♠ suit)

4NT (waiting, no ♠ fit) - 5♣ (showed enough, but not pass 4NT for slam hope)

6♣ (gamble because 4NT was not passed)

Just curious about something. 1C-1S-2C-2D, you say it is NMF and I agree. Next you suggest opener should bid bid 2H and you said: (force to show good hand, partner already showed no 4 cards H)

 

When did partner deny 4 card hearts?

When playing NMF, 1C-1S-2C-2H is natural and not forcing.

When playing NMF, 1C-1S-2C-3H is typically agreed to show 5-5 majors and can be agreed to be either forcing, invitational, or weak; I like it invitational because forcing hands can always go through NMF and then bid hearts [forcing] even if opener did not bid 2H. So using NMF can indeed have a 4-card heart suit that has not yet been shown.

[barmar]

Just curious about something. 1C-1S-2C-2D, you say it is NMF and I agree. Next you suggest opener should bid bid 2H and you said: (force to show good hand, partner already showed no 4 cards H)

 

When did partner deny 4 card hearts?

When playing NMF, 1C-1S-2C-2H is natural and not forcing.

When playing NMF, 1C-1S-2C-3H is typically agreed to show 5-5 majors and can be agreed to be either forcing, invitational, or weak; I like it invitational because forcing hands can always go through NMF and then bid hearts [forcing] even if opener did not bid 2H. So using NMF can indeed have a 4-card heart suit that has not yet been shown.

A new suit by an unpassed responder is always forcing. The difference between 1C-1S-2C-2D and 1C-1S-2C-2H is that a new minor is likely to be a fake suit (temporizing), but a new major is practically guaranteed to be natural.