Cascade Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 What is your agreement here? Or what is the default? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Possible meaning for 4NT in competition: 1st priority : takeout showing 2 places to play. Cannot logically aply here (would have applied if they overcalled 4M) 2nd priority : natural (only if we bid 3NT earlier - does not apply here) So we are left with 3rd priority: Blackwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 definitely sounds like natural to me KxQJxAKQJxxxA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 definitely sounds like natural to me KxQJxAKQJxxxA That hand is too strong - this looks like a slam force to me over a takeout double at the 4-level - but I agree about the hand type. I never play Blackwood so since we don't have an agreed suit that removes one option, and two-suited takeout doesn't make sense here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 right Arend didn't look at the hand after I posted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Voted "Something else", without really knowing what. best guess would be a good 5♦ hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd6789 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 to play - lots of diamonds and the AC rather go for 10 tricks than 11 4NT also a slam try if partner has tops in the majors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 What is the agreement on the X? I assume "cards" or "negativ/ish" with defensive tricks potential. If it was "cards" then 4NT could logically be an offensive hand with good long diamonds, a club stopper, and no 4-card majors. I dunno... I don't have agreement, but I do play X as *negative but with values suited for defense as well as offense*.If it was "penalty", then 4NT can only be slam investigation, thus plain Blackwood since no suit agreement exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 If it's natural then all slam tries start with 5♣. One-suited, two-suited with hearts, two-suited with spades, and three-suited. I suppose that's playable but slam exploration could be made more accurate by assigning some funny meaning to 4NT. Then again, it is probably not something that is worth discussing and natural is easy to remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 RKC for D. Sure 4Nt as natural make sense but having a RKC available take precedence. In Meckstroth book they have a similar bidding sequencew where Rodwell bid 4Nt thinking its RKC and Meck pass thinking its natural. So i guess this mean both meaning make sense and you do well to discuss it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Natural for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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